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True, but he's also talked about buying, too, so back to "what he says" vs. "what he means".
2026 US-Denmark Tensions/End of NATO
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Here is a theory/claim about what is meant by "buying" Greenland - that the US would buy out Denmark's claim, leaving Greenland completely independent and free to enter into any kind of new association it chooses, if any.
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Cool - now, just like the details of America's viceroyship arrangement with Venezuela, it would be nice to hear details from either POTUS47 himself or one of his team. VEN I can wait a bit longer, given the recent & kinetic nature of events, but Greenland's been on their burner for a while.
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One would hope. But as I posited some long time ago, surely by now his team (if not Trump himself) has noticed that they can throw their political opponents off balance and into time- and other resource-wasting tantrums by being as explosively insultingly provocative as possible.
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And what if the Inuit of Greenland say they want to join Canada and be with their kin in the CDN Arctic, then what?
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Waiting to hear from them that they must have St Pierre et Miquelon for their security and well being.
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Hard to say. Tongue-in-cheek, we'd look quite the fools if we say yes to a mostly-slab-of-ice after saying no to a tropical paradise.
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Of course. They dominate the lowest reaches of the St Lawrence Seaway. The US absolutely has to have them in case QC or one of the Atlantic provinces gets frisky.
I was reading an interesting take on that recently from someone who was invoked in the security assessment. Apparently bringing in T&C would have been an absolute nightmare from the standpoint of border and immigration security. Really changed my thinking on it.
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It is difficult to operate in the Arctic but not impossible. The difficulty means that only people that want to operate there and are committed to operating there will devote the effort to prosecute a successful campaign.
People that want to drop in, declare victory and return home are going to be confronted by people that have no intention of leaving and have different appreciations of what comfort and survival require.
In those conditions a couple of locals can keep hundreds of freezing foreigners engaged for months as they watch bits and pieces turn black and drop off.
Arriving is the easy bit. Staying is difficult.
Better to make a deal and offer to keep other foreigners out.
People that want to drop in, declare victory and return home are going to be confronted by people that have no intention of leaving and have different appreciations of what comfort and survival require.
In those conditions a couple of locals can keep hundreds of freezing foreigners engaged for months as they watch bits and pieces turn black and drop off.
Arriving is the easy bit. Staying is difficult.
Better to make a deal and offer to keep other foreigners out.
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Meh, just give it a charter to operate as a modern-day Tortuga without actual pirates.
Then what’s even the point?
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Take both
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Rum. And since it's not the RN, you don't have to put up with sodomy and the lash.
*The Royal Navy - an excellent name for a S&M club
*Why is the rum all gone?
Ok that’s a solid reason.
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Greenland is a weak spot.
For the US, for Canada, for the Scandinavians, for the Brits, and for the Europeans.
It has been a weak spot for a long time, just like our Arctic.
The US has devoted a lot of resources to infrastructure in Alaska. It has also spent a lot of money in Canada and in Greenland and Iceland. The Scandinavians for obvious reasons have devoted American levels of investment in their arctic infrastructure and defence.
The laggards are the Danes, the Icelanders and ourselves. The Danes and Icelanders have an excuse. There aren't many of them. The economic costs are high. And Denmark has the additional excuse of covering the cost of defendkng its strategically placed homeland.
I can't help but think a lot of what is happening is geared towards creating massive uncertainty here in Canada with a view to rewriting the relationship.
This year, before the mid-terms and with the renewal of the free trade agreement in mind, is likely to be a make or break year.
Things are going to look a lot different in '27.
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For the US, for Canada, for the Scandinavians, for the Brits, and for the Europeans.
It has been a weak spot for a long time, just like our Arctic.
The US has devoted a lot of resources to infrastructure in Alaska. It has also spent a lot of money in Canada and in Greenland and Iceland. The Scandinavians for obvious reasons have devoted American levels of investment in their arctic infrastructure and defence.
The laggards are the Danes, the Icelanders and ourselves. The Danes and Icelanders have an excuse. There aren't many of them. The economic costs are high. And Denmark has the additional excuse of covering the cost of defendkng its strategically placed homeland.
I can't help but think a lot of what is happening is geared towards creating massive uncertainty here in Canada with a view to rewriting the relationship.
This year, before the mid-terms and with the renewal of the free trade agreement in mind, is likely to be a make or break year.
Things are going to look a lot different in '27.
Greenland Is Europe’s Strategic Blind Spot—and Its Responsibility
Bottom lines up front In responding to recent rhetoric from the White House about “taking” Greenland, European leaders need to look beyond the legal infeasibility. The White House is
War in the Arctic?
Previously published in The Naval Review. The author outlines Russian and Chinese activities in the Arctic as part of his new book on the subject.
Canadian Icebreaker Design Picked for U.S. Coast Guard Arctic Security Cutters
Seaspan’s production-ready icebreaker design will be built in Finland and Louisiana as Washington races to counter Russian and Chinese activity in the High North. Canada’s Seaspan Shipyards has signed agreements...
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Trump is worried about Impeachment- he’s openly talking about it to his base.Greenland is a weak spot.
For the US, for Canada, for the Scandinavians, for the Brits, and for the Europeans.
It has been a weak spot for a long time, just like our Arctic.
The US has devoted a lot of resources to infrastructure in Alaska. It has also spent a lot of money in Canada and in Greenland and Iceland. The Scandinavians for obvious reasons have devoted American levels of investment in their arctic infrastructure and defence.
The laggards are the Danes, the Icelanders and ourselves. The Danes and Icelanders have an excuse. There aren't many of them. The economic costs are high. And Denmark has the additional excuse of covering the cost of defendkng its strategically placed homeland.
I can't help but think a lot of what is happening is geared towards creating massive uncertainty here in Canada with a view to rewriting the relationship.
This year, before the mid-terms and with the renewal of the free trade agreement in mind, is likely to be a make or break year.
Things are going to look a lot different in '27.
Greenland Is Europe’s Strategic Blind Spot—and Its Responsibility
Bottom lines up front In responding to recent rhetoric from the White House about “taking” Greenland, European leaders need to look beyond the legal infeasibility. The White House is
War in the Arctic?
Previously published in The Naval Review. The author outlines Russian and Chinese activities in the Arctic as part of his new book on the subject.
Canadian Icebreaker Design Picked for U.S. Coast Guard Arctic Security Cutters
Seaspan’s production-ready icebreaker design will be built in Finland and Louisiana as Washington races to counter Russian and Chinese activity in the High North. Canada’s Seaspan Shipyards has signed agreements...
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It’s a good thing that we’ve got 6 AOPS active now, with a JSS and a CCGS AOPS about to come online in 2026 as well.Greenland is a weak spot.
For the US, for Canada, for the Scandinavians, for the Brits, and for the Europeans.
It has been a weak spot for a long time, just like our Arctic.
The US has devoted a lot of resources to infrastructure in Alaska. It has also spent a lot of money in Canada and in Greenland and Iceland. The Scandinavians for obvious reasons have devoted American levels of investment in their arctic infrastructure and defence.
The laggards are the Danes, the Icelanders and ourselves. The Danes and Icelanders have an excuse. There aren't many of them. The economic costs are high. And Denmark has the additional excuse of covering the cost of defendkng its strategically placed homeland.
I can't help but think a lot of what is happening is geared towards creating massive uncertainty here in Canada with a view to rewriting the relationship.
This year, before the mid-terms and with the renewal of the free trade agreement in mind, is likely to be a make or break year.
Things are going to look a lot different in '27.
Greenland Is Europe’s Strategic Blind Spot—and Its Responsibility
Bottom lines up front In responding to recent rhetoric from the White House about “taking” Greenland, European leaders need to look beyond the legal infeasibility. The White House is
War in the Arctic?
Previously published in The Naval Review. The author outlines Russian and Chinese activities in the Arctic as part of his new book on the subject.
Canadian Icebreaker Design Picked for U.S. Coast Guard Arctic Security Cutters
Seaspan’s production-ready icebreaker design will be built in Finland and Louisiana as Washington races to counter Russian and Chinese activity in the High North. Canada’s Seaspan Shipyards has signed agreements...
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Is he worried or does he anticipate it?
Perhaps he wants his base to be worried enough about the prospect of losing him that they will turn out to elect friendly reps and senators.
