British Military Current Events

[FJAG]

Which says to me that my passport is worthless if there is a financial gain to be had by Ottawa. They definitely do not have my back. It is good to know when planning to travel, not that I would ever go to China but the same conditions would apply if I were going anywhere outside of the country. Sucks

I think our government would be more likely to pick its battle with say the Bahamas rather than China.

Sunny places are better to go to anyway.

 

[Kirkhill]

If you can think in the long term and big picture then yes they are. If you live for the moment and let every provocation get under your skin then no they're not.

One needs to learn what fights to pick and how to pick them when one works at that level.

Chinese Gordon and the telegraph caused the 1884-85 Nile Expedition to relieve him at Khartoum.
Now everybody is Chinese Gordon.
Everybody wants everybody relieved.

 

[YZT580]

Chinese Gordon and the telegraph caused the 1884-85 Nile Expedition to relieve him at Khartoum.
Now everybody is Chinese Gordon.
Everybody wants everybody relieved.

We are only a middle power, if that, but regardless when a country subjects a citizen of Canada to abuse or illegal incarceration that country should do so with the certain knowledge that it will not be business as usual with Canada until the situation is rectified and yes, it may cost Canada initially but at the moment we are the laughing stock of the G20. We use pencils to draw our red lines

 

[Kirkhill]

We are a middle power.

 

[Blackadder1916]

We are only a middle power, if that, but regardless when a country subjects a citizen of Canada to abuse or illegal incarceration that country should do so with the certain knowledge that it will not be business as usual with Canada until the situation is rectified and yes, it may cost Canada initially but at the moment we are the laughing stock of the G20. We use pencils to draw our red lines

What do other "middle power" countries do differently than Canada when their citizens are "illegally incarcerated" that make us the "laughing stock of the G20"? Or even great power countries? The superpowers are a differently kettle of fish, at least one of them currently being the most often accused "state hostage taker" or incarcerator. A quick google of other countries' nationals who have been incarcerated on specious(?) grounds in other countries seemingly indicates that most do much the same as Canada - diplomacy - and with about the same results. I did find this 2023 report that discusses the situation; Canada (specifically the Two Michaels) is prominently featured.

THE SOUFAN CENTER SPECIAL REPORT
CITIZENS FOR LEVERAGE:
Navigating State Hostage-Taking in a Shifting Geopolitical Landscape

What did catch my attention in the report:

There are several issues that need to be examined to better understand the national context for Canada's approach to arbitrary detention in state-to-state relations. First is the legal framework. No Canadian law explicitly mandates the government of Canada to provide consular services to its citizens abroad. Unlike the United States and over forty other nations who view consular service delivery as a legal obligation, in Canada, provision of consular services is a discretionary prerogative of the government.

Similar to Canada, for the UK government, there is no legal obligation in international or domestic law to provide consular assistance,97 which raises similar concerns around whether discretionary power can lead to the unequal provision of services and discrimination among Britons.