Active Shooter / Hostile Event ( ASHE ) prevention / response
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The effect on the community is going to be huge. Likely a number of the families that lost their child are going to leave the town for good. In 2021 there was 2300 people living there. I have been there, a nice town to raise young kids, but not a lot to do for teenagers and nowhere to go to escape bullying and not fitting in.
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Police update at 1130hrs PST...
Flags at half-mast, messages of support pour into B.C. community reeling from mass shooting
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Nine people were killed and 27 more were injured after a mass shooting in the community of Tumbler Ridge, B.C., on Tuesday.
RCMP are expected to provide an update at 11:30 PT. You can watch it above.
Officers believe they have identified the shooter, who was found dead in the school, but said they will "struggle" to ever determine a motive for what has become one of the deadliest shootings in Canadian history.
A Grade 12 student at the school said he and his classmates were locked down for more than two hours behind barricaded doors before police escorted them outside.
Prime Minister Mark Carney says all flags on federal government buildings across the country will be flown at half mast. Question period has been cancelled for today.
Provincial and world leaders, including King Charles, have expressed solidarity with Canadians and the B.C. community.
B.C.'s Mental Health Support line is 310-6789. You can also reach Kids Help Phone by calling 1-800-668-6868, or texting "CONNECT" to 686868.
Flags at half-mast, messages of support pour into B.C. community reeling from mass shooting
The Latest
Nine people were killed and 27 more were injured after a mass shooting in the community of Tumbler Ridge, B.C., on Tuesday.
RCMP are expected to provide an update at 11:30 PT. You can watch it above.
Officers believe they have identified the shooter, who was found dead in the school, but said they will "struggle" to ever determine a motive for what has become one of the deadliest shootings in Canadian history.
A Grade 12 student at the school said he and his classmates were locked down for more than two hours behind barricaded doors before police escorted them outside.
Prime Minister Mark Carney says all flags on federal government buildings across the country will be flown at half mast. Question period has been cancelled for today.
Provincial and world leaders, including King Charles, have expressed solidarity with Canadians and the B.C. community.
B.C.'s Mental Health Support line is 310-6789. You can also reach Kids Help Phone by calling 1-800-668-6868, or texting "CONNECT" to 686868.
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I listened to the press conference by the OC E Division. I thought he handled it well. It seems many of the injured were comparatively minor and not gun shot wounds but a variety of injuries as a result of the panic.
Apparently the police had been involved with the shooter for several years, primarily for wellness/mental health calls, but not in the past year. She had apparently dropped out of school four years ago.
Sometimes you wish you could just slap some media upside the head. One asked why the police "were hiding" the fact that the shooter was transgendered. He said they weren't hiding it - they were using the gender the shooter identified as (she was born male). And of course questioning why did or did not know something; less than a day into the investigation.
I don't know how many RCMP members are in Tumbler Ridge but I doubt many would have been on duty at the time and, given the geography, specialized services and backup were probably a long time coming. The first members responding were confronted with active gunfire.
Apparently the police had been involved with the shooter for several years, primarily for wellness/mental health calls, but not in the past year. She had apparently dropped out of school four years ago.
Sometimes you wish you could just slap some media upside the head. One asked why the police "were hiding" the fact that the shooter was transgendered. He said they weren't hiding it - they were using the gender the shooter identified as (she was born male). And of course questioning why did or did not know something; less than a day into the investigation.
I don't know how many RCMP members are in Tumbler Ridge but I doubt many would have been on duty at the time and, given the geography, specialized services and backup were probably a long time coming. The first members responding were confronted with active gunfire.
From pretty reliable police grapevine- five member RCMP detachment, probably not fully staffed. Two were on shift at the time and they responded alone for at least double digits of minutes before the others were reached and activated. And then those (4 total?) were probably it for most of an hour dealing with casualties, figuring out if the threat was entirely stopped, etc.
Sounds like the two who came under fire on approach saved lives by getting there so fast and reorienting the shooter’s focus; she engaged the officers and then suicided. Get them to Rideau Hall and pin a Star of Courage on them.
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I'm not usually a fan of praising people for doing their jobs, even when it's high stakes first responders, but responding to a school shootings has to be a unique horror.
The RCMP officers arriving and going in with who they had on the ground is incredibly courageous. The shooter appeared proficient with firearms. The RCMP officers undoubtedly saved a lot of kids lives. Incredible of them.
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A very typical result of rapid police intervention. My deepest respect to them. I hope they get the support they need to deal with the trauma of dealing with murdered kids and injured kids.
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In my opinion they went above and beyond. No cop ever goes to a call thinking this is the day they might die. This is probably and exception.
The Star of Courage is completely appropriate and the Commissioner's Commendation for Bravery as well.
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Throne speech to open the BC Legislative session tomorrow cancelled, LG to speak instead ...
B.C. throne speech cancelled because of Tumbler Ridge shooting
VICTORIA — The three official parties in British Columbia's provincial legislature have announced the cancellation of Thursday's throne speech because of the mass shooting that claimed nine lives in Tumbler Ridge, B.C.
Interim B.C. Conservative leader Trevor Halford said it was time to put politics aside.
"Yesterday, parents packed their kids' lunch," he said. "Today, they are making funeral arrangements. There is no place for politics in any of this."
Halford said the focus in the coming days should be on the people of Tumbler Ridge. "Those kids, those people of Tumbler Ridge are the absolute priority."
A joint statement from the three party house leaders in the legislature said the speech is being cancelled in recognition of the "horrific shooting and tragic loss of life" in the community in northeastern British Columbia.
Government house leader Mike Farnworth, the opposition's A'aliya Warbus and Rob Botterell of the B.C. Greens say lieutenant-governor Wendy Cocchia will instead a deliver a speech dedicated to the people of Tumbler Ridge followed by brief legally required procedures.
Their statement also says legislators will stand for a moment of silence in honour of the victims, their families and the entire community.
It says Thursday will be declared a day of mourning in British Columbia.
B.C. throne speech cancelled because of Tumbler Ridge shooting
VICTORIA — The three official parties in British Columbia's provincial legislature have announced the cancellation of Thursday's throne speech because of the mass shooting that claimed nine lives in Tumbler Ridge, B.C.
Interim B.C. Conservative leader Trevor Halford said it was time to put politics aside.
"Yesterday, parents packed their kids' lunch," he said. "Today, they are making funeral arrangements. There is no place for politics in any of this."
Halford said the focus in the coming days should be on the people of Tumbler Ridge. "Those kids, those people of Tumbler Ridge are the absolute priority."
A joint statement from the three party house leaders in the legislature said the speech is being cancelled in recognition of the "horrific shooting and tragic loss of life" in the community in northeastern British Columbia.
Government house leader Mike Farnworth, the opposition's A'aliya Warbus and Rob Botterell of the B.C. Greens say lieutenant-governor Wendy Cocchia will instead a deliver a speech dedicated to the people of Tumbler Ridge followed by brief legally required procedures.
Their statement also says legislators will stand for a moment of silence in honour of the victims, their families and the entire community.
It says Thursday will be declared a day of mourning in British Columbia.
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When I did my IRD training, one of rhe stats preaented was that 47% of ASHE attacks ended with the death of the attacker shortly after the arrival of armed first responders, often by their own hand.
I don’t have a stat to throw out but that’s consistent with what I was told on my course and then when I became an instructor. It’s why “first arriving member go in” is so important.
OldSolduer
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FWIW they suicide because it’s the power they have and it’s control. Once they’ve lost control of the situation they’ll generally suicide
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Live feed from Tumbler Ridge... BC Premier and others speak at vigil
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That’s a bigger detachment than I guessed. My hometown is roughly the same size but its detachment is 2-3 members. Tumbler Ridge Det is probably bigger because of the greater distance to other detachments. Still, that’s a shitty incident for two members to have to respond to without immediate backup. If they don’t get the Star of Courage, there’s absolutely no justice in this world.
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I recall similar from both my user and instructor course, been a while since I've been able to teach it though.
In the same presentation it also explains why showing up with lights and sirens engaged and yelling "POLICE! STOP!" repeatedly during entry and advance to contact is such an important and effective tactic.
I know multiple members deployed there now, what you've heard is also what I'm hearing.
I agree a Star of Courage should be only the start of our thanks to those members.
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I haven't been following it that closely but wondering if the responding members had rifles. I recall that was an issue in both NS and Moncton. Deployment approved but roll-out was lacking.
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I can't say with absolute certainty those members did in fact have C8s in their hands as I wasn't there, but there is no reason they shouldn't have.
The C8 course is now taught at Depot, the rifles themselves have now been around long enough we're on to our second generation of rifle (only change was from Colt Canada IUR to MRR) and there are enough instructors around nobody should be expiring for lack of annual qualification availability.
Unlike our east coast divisions, E Division takes this shit seriously, one of the perks of having a place like PRTC.
