All Things AB Separatism (split fm Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???)

[MilEME09]

Thanks to the law that was changed last year by Smith and the UCP.

You could almost think this was planned.

Amendment to Alberta election law hindered probe into alleged misuse of data, watchdog says

Elections Alberta faced criticism for not acting on information that a separatist group may have had unauthorized access to electors list

www.theglobeandmail.com

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Can the feds nuke that law still using disallowance?

 

[The Bread Guy]

Can the feds nuke that law still using disallowance?

Even if they could, would that be their best option, optically even if it's letter-of-the-law correct?

 

[MilEME09]

Even if they could, would that be their best option, optically even if it's letter-of-the-law correct?

Arguement could be made there is the need to restore power and confidence in Elections Alberta, and give power back to the people to remove their names if it has been added without their consent in light of this breach

 

[brihard]

Arguement could be made there is the need to restore power and confidence in Elections Alberta, and give power back to the people to remove their names if it has been added without their consent in light of this breach

Properly this should be resolved by the provincial government. Ultimately, though, the petition leads to a potential referendum question; at that point everyone gets to cast their vote and nuke the whole thing incontrovertibly.

The Feds invoking a long-dormant power to suppress provincial legislation on election integrity would play right into the separatists’ hands.

 

[MilEME09]

Properly this should be resolved by the provincial government. Ultimately, though, the petition leads to a potential referendum question; at that point everyone gets to cast their vote and nuke the whole thing incontrovertibly.

The Feds invoking a long-dormant power to suppress provincial legislation on election integrity would play right into the separatists’ hands.

From the way it reads, killing Bill 25 would increase integrity. Many judges and lawyers warned this could happen

 

[brihard]

From the way it reads, killing Bill 25 would increase integrity. Many judges and lawyers warned this could happen

I like what Jen Gerson said yesterday on The Line. Kill the petitions, and let the separatists form a provincial party and run on it as a platform like the PQ did. Demonstrate democratic legitimacy that way.

 

[Altair]

I like what Jen Gerson said yesterday on The Line. Kill the petitions, and let the separatists form a provincial party and run on it as a platform like the PQ did. Demonstrate democratic legitimacy that way.

They already have a separatists party. The UCP

 

[RangerRay]

A bit more "told ya so" from The Line reporter who gave EA a head's up 31 March.

SCOOP: Jen Gerson: Elections Alberta's massive failure could have put people in danger. I tried to warn them.

The most unhinged people in the province may now have access to the personal information of everybody who lives here, and there's nothing we can do about it

www.readtheline.ca

Archived link.

Not so much “I told you so” but more “I told you over a month ago, you blew me off, then when you do investigate your timeline starts weeks after I reported it to you. Fuck you and the donkey you rode in on”.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Silly tantrums are fine, but sometimes they happen at the wrong time and have unintended consequences...

Like I said, in 2019 it would be amusing, now I have some concerns that our southern neighbour will use the referendum as a pretext to openly interfere in our politics/governance.

jpkpl9

Not so much “I told you so” but more “I told you over a month ago, you blew me off, then when you do investigate your timeline starts weeks after I reported it to you. Fuck you and the donkey you rode in on”.

Good for her !
Quit frankly there should be people's heads on pikes for this.
Somebody's joyfully fucking over democracy and the best that the people who are supposably protecting the system can do is ....next to nothing ?

 

[MilEME09]

Not so much “I told you so” but more “I told you over a month ago, you blew me off, then when you do investigate your timeline starts weeks after I reported it to you. Fuck you and the donkey you rode in on”.

It really begs the question, what changed in 1 month considering the nature of the information posted online didnt

 

[Retired AF Guy]

jpkpl9
Good for her !
Quit frankly there should be people's heads on pikes for this.
Somebody's joyfully fucking over democracy and the best that the people who are supposably protecting the system can do is ....next to nothing ?

I thought the RCMP were investigating?

 

[MilEME09]

Well this wont look good for separatists, Edmonton woman fleeing domestic violence needs relocating after her information released by the centurion project.

Mark Carney calls alleged privacy breach in Alberta deeply concerning

An Edmonton city councillor says he and his team are helping a woman facing intimate partner violence relocate with her children after her address was leaked in an alleged privacy breach by a separatist group.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Altair]

Well this wont look good for separatists, Edmonton woman fleeing domestic violence needs relocating after her information released by the centurion project.

Mark Carney calls alleged privacy breach in Alberta deeply concerning

An Edmonton city councillor says he and his team are helping a woman facing intimate partner violence relocate with her children after her address was leaked in an alleged privacy breach by a separatist group.

www.ctvnews.ca

Tragic. So we can add women dying to domestic violence to the list of things Alberta separatists do differently to their Quebec counterparts.

 

[Furniture]

Tragic. So we can add women dying to domestic violence to the list of things Alberta separatists do differently to their Quebec counterparts.

That is unhelpful and inflammatory.

I suppose Alberta separatists still have to get to kidnapping, murder, and terrorism to equal their counterparts in Quebec by your logic.

 

[Altair]

That is unhelpful and inflammatory.

I suppose Alberta separatists still have to get to kidnapping, murder, and terrorism to equal their counterparts in Quebec by your logic.

Give them time.

 

[MilEME09]

That is unhelpful and inflammatory.

I suppose Alberta separatists still have to get to kidnapping, murder, and terrorism to equal their counterparts in Quebec by your logic.

What it does highlight however is every domestic violence victim, RCMP, city police, CSIS, CAF, and government officials had their name and address public for a whole month. I find it likely that it was picked up by another gov, intelligence agency or criminal organizations as well.

Depending how deep this goes, theres some federal laws that might apply here as well.

 

[Altair]

What it does highlight however is every domestic violence victim, RCMP, city police, CSIS, CAF, and government officials had their name and address public for a whole month. I find it likely that it was picked up by another gov, intelligence agency or criminal organizations as well.

Depending how deep this goes, theres some federal laws that might apply here as well.

The fact that people are not outraged by this baffles me.

They just doxxed an entire Canadian province.

 

[Furniture]

What it does highlight however is every domestic violence victim, RCMP, city police, CSIS, CAF, and government officials had their name and address public for a whole month. I find it likely that it was picked up by another gov, intelligence agency or criminal organizations as well.

Depending how deep this goes, theres some federal laws that might apply here as well.

Fair, it seems like a bunch of amateurs made a massive mistake that potentially has massive consequences. I have serious doubts that it was done maliciously, but regardless of intent it has already had negative consequences for some.

The people who organized this massive breech of privacy need to be investigated and charged if appropriate.

The fact that people are not outraged by this baffles me.

They just doxxed an entire Canadian province.

People often forgive the transgressions of their political tribe... It's not new, and it isn't limited to one group.