KevinB
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Iran Super Thread- Merged
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The day IS still young as I share this (~0730 Eastern) ....
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Trump says Iran deal coming Sunday - National | Globalnews.ca
Ahead of next week's G7 summit, U.S. President Donald Trump said a deal to end the war with Iran is expected to be signed Sunday and would reopen the Strait of Hormuz.
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Signing of US-Iran deal not on Trump’s public schedule
Signing of US-Iran deal not on Trump’s public schedule.
An agreement to possibly have an agreement. So a nothing burger to make it sound like something is happening.The day IS still young as I share this (~0730 Eastern) ....
Trump says Iran deal coming Sunday - National | Globalnews.ca
Ahead of next week's G7 summit, U.S. President Donald Trump said a deal to end the war with Iran is expected to be signed Sunday and would reopen the Strait of Hormuz.Signing of US-Iran deal not on Trump’s public schedule
Signing of US-Iran deal not on Trump’s public schedule.
HavokFour
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Just in time.
Israel continues strikes in Beirut’s southern suburbs, killing 3
Two people were killed and four others wounded in the strike, which targeted an apartment in Dahiyeh, state news agency NNA reported.
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Trump on Beirut strike: Netanyahu ‘has no f**king judgment’
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Just in time.
Israel continues strikes in Beirut’s southern suburbs, killing 3
Two people were killed and four others wounded in the strike, which targeted an apartment in Dahiyeh, state news agency NNA reported.
Trump on Beirut strike: Netanyahu ‘has no f**king judgment’
I dont actually.
There’s a potential that this fundamentally, if minorly, shifts the dynamics between the U.S. and Israel.Bibi has now put himself on the wrong side of something Trump clearly Rey badly wants. Conversely, Israel is now being hit with new tactics by Hezbollah - the widespread use of SUAS like we’ve seen in Ukraine - that won’t go away and that could potentially be sustained indefinitely. Geography is very much not on Israel’s side here; they lack depth.
So, Israel’s in a military bind (not a huge one per se, but it’s an increased trickle of quite visible casualties), and Bibi is in a major political one. Their response, continued ops bordering on occupation of southern Lebanon coupled with sporadic bombings in Beirut, appears to cross a red line Iran takes seriously.
Meanwhile, the U.S. badly needs a deal with Iran that reopens global trade routes impacted by the near closure of Hormuz. The U.S. needs it economically and Trump needs it politically.
This imperative runs afoul of America’s usually… let’s call it solicitous relationship with Israel. Trump has to really grip the leash on Israel if they’re to get Iran to accept peace terms. But that leaves Israel sort of at the mercy of continued drone strikes by Hezbollah, broadcast daily online. It makes Bibi look quite weak, all the moreso when Trump says he ‘does what he’s told’, to paraphrase.
Bibi faces a real predicament and I think we’ll see Israel aggressively try to leverage Congress against Trump on this. Israel is economically quite resilient to closure of the strait of Hormuz compared with many other nations. They can weather that. Politically, Netenyahu may not be able to weather Hezbollah continuing to kill and maim Israeli soldiers with impunity.
I don’t know how this plays out, because at the centre of it is Trump with all of his erratic self-interest. He’s gonna start throwing people under the bus soon for getting him mired in this…
So, Israel’s in a military bind (not a huge one per se, but it’s an increased trickle of quite visible casualties), and Bibi is in a major political one. Their response, continued ops bordering on occupation of southern Lebanon coupled with sporadic bombings in Beirut, appears to cross a red line Iran takes seriously.
Meanwhile, the U.S. badly needs a deal with Iran that reopens global trade routes impacted by the near closure of Hormuz. The U.S. needs it economically and Trump needs it politically.
This imperative runs afoul of America’s usually… let’s call it solicitous relationship with Israel. Trump has to really grip the leash on Israel if they’re to get Iran to accept peace terms. But that leaves Israel sort of at the mercy of continued drone strikes by Hezbollah, broadcast daily online. It makes Bibi look quite weak, all the moreso when Trump says he ‘does what he’s told’, to paraphrase.
Bibi faces a real predicament and I think we’ll see Israel aggressively try to leverage Congress against Trump on this. Israel is economically quite resilient to closure of the strait of Hormuz compared with many other nations. They can weather that. Politically, Netenyahu may not be able to weather Hezbollah continuing to kill and maim Israeli soldiers with impunity.
I don’t know how this plays out, because at the centre of it is Trump with all of his erratic self-interest. He’s gonna start throwing people under the bus soon for getting him mired in this…
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Trump will abandon Bibi at his peril. There is a lot of big money with ties to Israel.
I don’t think things are getting signed today.
Interesting to see what the secondary effect of this will be on Trump trying to effect his will at the G7…
I don’t think things are getting signed today.
Interesting to see what the secondary effect of this will be on Trump trying to effect his will at the G7…
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Bit surprised that Trump hasn’t pushed to have Bibi attend and attempt to hammer out a wider agreement with Lebanon, Gaza and Iran.Trump will abandon Bibi at his peril. There is a lot of big money with ties to Israel.
I don’t think things are getting signed today.
Interesting to see what the secondary effect of this will be on Trump trying to effect his will at the G7…
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Maybe a variation on the “why aren’t you ingrates helping us (after all the time we’ve spent dissing you)?” approach? Ya never know wit’ dis guy …Interesting to see what the secondary effect of this will be on Trump trying to effect his will at the G7…
KevinB
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Iran in the rear view of a Israeli F-35…
If Iran doesn’t stop Hez, I sadly do see this as an Israeli COA, especially if Israel feels abandoned.
They don’t have the depth without making massive pushes into Lebanon, which will still leave the IDF vulnerable to SUAS strikes.
You can’t totally blame Israel for hitting positions in Lebanon regardless if it’s an Iranian Red Line, as it is used to attack Israelis from.
Iran needs to muzzle Hezbollah, or accept that the Israeli responses. Which of course is 180 degrees from their objective to help Hezbollah destroy Israel.
Trump can whine all he wants, but Congress (IMHO) is going to support Israel in this, and it’s going to get bigger and bigger and bigger. I already posted my thoughts on what happens if Israel has to go it alone.
If Iran doesn’t stop Hez, I sadly do see this as an Israeli COA, especially if Israel feels abandoned.
They don’t have the depth without making massive pushes into Lebanon, which will still leave the IDF vulnerable to SUAS strikes.
You can’t totally blame Israel for hitting positions in Lebanon regardless if it’s an Iranian Red Line, as it is used to attack Israelis from.
Iran needs to muzzle Hezbollah, or accept that the Israeli responses. Which of course is 180 degrees from their objective to help Hezbollah destroy Israel.
Trump can whine all he wants, but Congress (IMHO) is going to support Israel in this, and it’s going to get bigger and bigger and bigger. I already posted my thoughts on what happens if Israel has to go it alone.
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This conflict may actually cause the Americans (in general, of all parties) to realize finally that ever since they started backing Israel (remember, the US was against Israel's actions and not generally supportive at the time of the Suez crisis - it came after that time as a result of Israel's propaganda in the US strategy supported by their New York diaspora), it was because Israel and Jewish money in the US bought their interests politically but it has nothing to do with US interests in the region and was always about Israel's own goals and interests protection without any reciprocal benefit to the US.
