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Im kind of addicted police body cam channels on YouTube. This one is out there to watch if you're so inclined.
Police Folk Allegedly Behaving Badly
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Im kind of addicted police body cam channels on YouTube. This one is out there to watch if you're so inclined.
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It may be a hot take, but police should probably know the law if they're trying to enforce it.
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Taser Tuesday on YouTube,
The "Medicine from Con Edison. "
"It's the taser, 50,000 volts of light, zap zap, sit down, you gonna act right when that switch flip fool you get polite."
They also show fur missiles earning their Alpo.
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Proposal for legislation: If you lose your gun, you lose your job.
www.ctvnews.ca
Peel police officer accidentally left loaded gun behind in Square One change room
Peel police say a plainclothes police officer will forfeit 15 days’ pay after she admitted to leaving a loaded, police-issued firearm unattended in a change room inside a busy Mississauga, Ont., mall.
www.ctvnews.ca
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There'd be not insignificant number of CAF member getting sacked if similar logic was applied there.
The article make no mention of the outcome of the CCC charges for unsafe storage. I guess that's the other shoe waiting to drop?
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I have no problem with CAF members who lose / misplace their weapons being kicked out.
An undercover officer leaving their pistol behind in a change room should not be a police officer.
The protection from political interference in policing has become an abdication of responsibility by political leadership to properly manage policing.
Sorry, just gonna be a pedant here 'cause this is one of those things that makes my eye twitch a bit; 'plainclothes' =/= 'undercover'.
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Fair.
Good news: I think plainclothes, uniformed and undercover cops should all lose their jobs if they lose their weapons. (I would differentiate a theft from a loss).
Sure, reasonable point for discussion. It's up for debate whether the cost benefit of discarding usually a lot of training and experience is worth it for a colossally embarrassing fuckup that will almost invariably be successfully punished, deterred, and learned from and practically never repeated. I would suggest that if 'gun left behind' turns into a default dismissal, then the rare case of 'gun left behind' risks turning into a situation someone tries to cover up for hours in hopes they can find it with the resultant risk of a 'gun left behind' turning into 'gun gone astray', versus being an immediate 'oh shit!' with the member knowing they're going to eat some major crap, but there being an incentive to immediately bring the problem forward for help in recovering it.
Absolutely it's an intolerable screwup. It absolutely needs to be punished seriously. I'm not certain that, in every case, loss of employment will best address the problem to be solved.
Food for thought.
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Gun vs. taser confusion, though...
Kim Potter is found guilty of manslaughter in the death of Daunte Wright
Kim Potter, the former Minnesota police officer who mistakenly drew her handgun instead of her Taser during a traffic stop in April in which she fatally shot Daunte Wright, has been found guilty.Jurors had been deliberating since Monday before finding Potter, who had served as an officer in Brooklyn Center, Minn., for 26 years, guilty of first- and second-degree manslaughter charges in the death of Wright.
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The question becomes: what level of error is irredeemable. (The sunk cost fallacy, to my mind, is a bit of a red herring). And after such an obvious error, what will their McNeil disclosure look like? Will that level of forgetfulness about a foundational issue threaten to impugn their testimony going forward? And if that's the case - if they're now a "Crown won't move forward with anything they touch because of their McNeil" - what is the value in keeping them as a peace officer?
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