CAN-USA Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

[QV]

Who the f8Ck cares about Maia, where she comes from or where she's worked in the past. The SINGLE question should be - is she best for that role today?

Go and google who David Frum is.

He's a Canadian and was Jr Bush's speechwriter. Do you think that Republicans got their panties in a twist because their President's speechwriter was a Canadian?

David Frum also initially campaigned for the NDP when he was a youth.

He's now an independent and no longer a Republican because of Trump.

ANY competent leader hires the best qualified - trusted - person to fill their most valuable positions.

I was once a member of the old CAW (Canadian Auto Workers) when I was in University when I built Chrysler minivans in Windsor. The pay was fantastic but in order to work there I had to join the CAW and pay union dues every paycheque. Everyday going into the plant I had a 'PC Youth' party pin on my backpack and had to almost daily defend my decision to publicly declare where my political beliefs lay. Sometimes it was easy, others, well I thought I might be 'jumped' when I would go to the men's room. Didn't stop me at all. I needed the job/money and wanted to 'add to my resume' that I had worked at a large, fast paced company, in a precision, detailed oriented work environment so it would open up new doors for me. It did.

A person with 15, 20, 30+yrs of solid, progressive work experience in the business world should have a wide, wide range of industries, companies, roles and responsibilities, and world locations, in order to hold a position such as the COO to the PM of Canada who themselves has a wide, wide ranging world encompassing track record.

Would you be more happy if the PM's COO of the PMO was someone born, raised, educated only in - insert some small CDN town/city - and who in turn took a long-life job only in - insert some medium CDN city - and never lived/worked outside of the province, let alone the country, before being asked to be the COO of the PMO?

LOL yeah ok.

Given the political climate in the US, particularly the sensitivity around those directly opposed to current POTUS, staffing one of the chief strategists opposed to POTUS to advise you how to manage US relations is an unnecessary poke in the eye. Considering what you all think about Trump, is a poke like that going to help or hurt things? Is that juice worth the squeeze or might there be a better option? It's an own goal easily avoided - unless it was to send a message which given the anti-trump pro DNC sentiment is plausible.

As to Frum, that's a different time and a poor example.

 

[QV]

We get it. You want a Canada entirely subordinate to the US.

Concessions to the USA, concessions to the EU, concessions to China... pick one.

 

[Czech_pivo]

LOL yeah ok.

Given the political climate in the US, particularly the sensitivity around those directly opposed to current POTUS, staffing one of the chief strategists opposed to POTUS to advise you how to manage US relations is an unnecessary poke in the eye. Considering what you all think about Trump, is a poke like that going to help or hurt things? Is that juice worth the squeeze or might there be a better option? It's an own goal easily avoided - unless it was to send a message which given the anti-trump pro DNC sentiment is plausible.

As to Frum, that's a different time and a poor example.

Sure, whatever you say.
Again, if you need a sponsor for your US immigration forms just say the word and I’ll put myself down as a reference for you.

It’s a ‘poor example’ because it’s relevant and works against you.

 

[QV]

Sure, whatever you say.
Again, if you need a sponsor for your US immigration forms just say the word and I’ll put myself down as a reference for you.

It’s a ‘poor example’ because it’s relevant and works against you.

I hear the line up is long and filled with high skilled Canadians... but in all seriousness, this is where people like you go when someone isn't jumping up and down with anti-usa fervor.

Canada is going to be tied to the US economy in a major way for a very long time or it will collapse. This is reality. You can look at the anti US elbows up approach as a strategic way of trying to secure leverage or look at it as stupid and unnecessarily inflammatory. I choose the latter.

 

[Czech_pivo]

I hear the line up is long and filled with high skilled Canadians... but in all seriousness, this is where people like you go when someone isn't jumping up and down with anti-usa fervor.

Canada is going to be tied to the US economy in a major way for a very long time or it will collapse. This is reality. You can look at the anti US elbows up approach as a strategic way of trying to secure leverage or look at it as stupid and unnecessarily inflammatory. I choose the latter.

Sorry, no 'anti-USA' fervor, just anti incompetent President and sycophant minions around him.

I have dual citizenship, as does my whole family. Have worked/lived in the US for a number of years. I have over 75% of my extended family living in the US. I chose Canada over the US for myself decades ago.

In the past I've voted Republican (looking at you Senator McCain) and I've voted Democrat in the past as well. I now vote for the individual when it comes down to politics after decades of belonging to the PC party.

Yup, Canada will continue to be tied to the US economy, just like The Netherlands is to Germany or NZLD is to Australia - but what should never occur again is the tying of over 70% of our economy to a single country. Bringing that down to under 50% would be the smartest, most prudent thing this government and ANY CDN government can do going forward.

This SHOULD be a wake up call to all Canadians, all ALL political stripes, we need to be able to stand on our own 2 feet, through a robust diversified world exporting based economy with a CAF that will punch above its weight class tomorrow and everyday going forward.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

and minimize the amount of raw resources we export, particularly raw logs.

 

[Good2Golf]

and minimize the amount of raw resources we export, particularly raw logs.

Yeah!!!

 

[McG]

I think were just a proxy in the DNC war on Trump.

Because it was DNC that actually started the tariffs & trade war?

 

[lenaitch]

If it was Moosepiss Moosehead Brewery relocating from NB to US, or establishing a brewery on the other side of the border to service the Americans who account for 10% of its sales, then it would be a big story. But "Mother Mushroom" on Campobello Island, whose sole road link is a bridge to the USA, is hardly the same. It is unfortunate that tariffs have disrupted their "...American dream... " (how they describe the journey to starting their business on a GoFundMe page seeking funds to relocate to Maine), but if your business model is founded on catering to a majority American customer base within a highly regulated sector, why would you locate it in Canada?

One of them is Canadian (him or her), from somewhere. Might have something to do with it. If you go on their website, it sounds like a 1970s hippy commune that makes some beer to pay the bills.

I never understood the charm of Moosehead in the USA or seeing their trucks on the road in Texas when I was down there over three decades ago. I didn't drink the stuff when I was posted to Gagetown.

I never understood the charm of Coors up here, or any mainstream US beer for that matter. I've had a couple of darned good US craft brews.

 

[lenaitch]

Concessions to the USA, concessions to the EU, concessions to China... pick one.

I pick one that isn't actively and openly trying to subordinate us, and turn itself into a theocracy.

I await the comeback 'oh, that's just Trump being Trump'.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Yes, yes, …. but … does she have her security clearance? Lol

 

[HavokFour]

Would this fall under tariff strife?

Luckily the Calgary Police were quick and he didn't get a chance to hurt someone. Deeply unwell individual in need of some serious professional help.

[CBC]Police say man threatened to shoot someone in Calgary grocery store in fight over U.S. tariffs​

Police say a man was shopping with his wife and child, when they were approached by a 49-year-old man they didn't know, making comments about tariffs.

The suspect became visibly agitated and started shouting anti-Canadian and pro-American remarks, police said.

From there, the situation escalated, with police alleging the suspect threatened to go get a shotgun and shoot the man in front of his wife and child.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Would this fall under tariff strife?

Luckily the Calgary Police were quick and he didn't get a chance to hurt someone. Deeply unwell individual in need of some serious professional help.

[CBC]Police say man threatened to shoot someone in Calgary grocery store in fight over U.S. tariffs​

Have they released any details about the accused ?

We need to find a lower this temperature. This is worth no ones lives.

 

[brihard]

Have they released any details about the accused ?

We need to find a lower this temperature. This is worth no ones lives.

James Dean Garriock, 49.

Calgary man facing firearms charges after alleged death threats linked to tariffs

Calgary police have charged a man after he allegedly threatened to shoot another man inside a southwest grocery store.

www.ctvnews.ca

This specific case seems less a matter of ‘lowering the temperature’, and more a single individual who’s completely unhinged.

 

[Jarnhamar]

James Dean Garriock, 49.

Calgary man facing firearms charges after alleged death threats linked to tariffs

Calgary police have charged a man after he allegedly threatened to shoot another man inside a southwest grocery store.

www.ctvnews.ca

This specific case seems less a matter of ‘lowering the temperature’, and more a single individual who’s completely unhinged.

Any idea why police would seize stuff like a flash night and ear plugs from this guy?

 

[brihard]

Any idea why police would seize stuff like a flash night and ear plugs from this guy?

Probably just the entire contents of a gun safe spread out on a table or something.

“Hey what have we got as a seizure photo for media?”

“Only one we have of everything is when we laid out all the stuff on scene for initial photos.”

“Ok, that works.”

Speculating, of course.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Reading through an ATIP about CBSA seizing my friends shipment of semi-automatic rifles, they had setup a dog and pony show with everything laid out (several hundred guns and bits and pieces) for the press and 1 hour before the press conference, someones asks; "Did he have all the correct permits and authorization?" Frantic scurrying and the simple answer of "yes". More frantic scurrying to cancel the press conference just before it starts.....

 

[Czech_pivo]

Reading through an ATIP about CBSA seizing my friends shipment of semi-automatic rifles, they had setup a dog and pony show with everything laid out (several hundred guns and bits and pieces) for the press and 1 hour before the press conference, someones asks; "Did he have all the correct permits and authorization?" Frantic scurrying and the simple answer of "yes". More frantic scurrying to cancel the press conference just before it starts.....

At least there was 1 person who asked the appropriate question and had the level of responsibility and respect to be listened to. Would the same result have occurred if it was a Jr officer?

 

[Brad Sallows]

and minimize the amount of raw resources we export, particularly raw logs.

GoC is upending and reworking all sorts of stuff because the US is a bully. If only it would do China as well.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

At least there was 1 person who asked the appropriate question and had the level of responsibility and respect to be listened to. Would the same result have occurred if it was a Jr officer?

I will give CBSA credit for not trying to hide their stupidity in the ATIP. Unlike the RCMP who on the same file redacted most of it and stymied the release of the ATIP.