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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #75 on: April 07, 2016, 10:17:32 »
After having been in denial for a number of years I had a hearing test in September and submitted a claim for both tinnitus and hearing loss a few weeks later. My hearing loss was low to moderate in both ears while the tinnitus was in my left ear only. The folks at the private clinic assured me my claim would be approved as I am a gunner, but I was dubious.

On our return from Arizona at the end of March I found a large envelope from VAC. Before opening it, I told me wife that my claim was no doubt refused and it will be interesting to see what comes next. The first thing I saw when I opened the envelop was the statement that my claim was approved and I would be receiving a cash award of a bit over $30K. (on reflection this was for both hearing loss and tinnitus.) A letter with my VAC card and other paperwork followed, but they wanted another hearing test and a prescription for hearing aids from our family doctor before they would approve my hearing aids. All that is submitted now, so it is just a matter of a few weeks wait now.

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #76 on: April 07, 2016, 15:45:03 »
I didn't have any prior docs for tinnitus or hearing loss. I served with the arty as well, but my favourable decision was based off of my location in relation to the air field when I was deployed. Go figure. Submitted the paperwork in October '15 and in late February '16 decision paperwork was received.

I have faith in the system, but they are a gov't department and the gov't does move at the speed of smell. If any of you have issues with VAC, there's a lot of great advice in this thread and others. Be sure to talk to your local advocate when you are completing your paperwork.



 
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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #77 on: April 07, 2016, 15:51:29 »
After having been in denial for a number of years I had a hearing test in September and submitted a claim for both tinnitus and hearing loss a few weeks later. My hearing loss was low to moderate in both ears while the tinnitus was in my left ear only. The folks at the private clinic assured me my claim would be approved as I am a gunner, but I was dubious.

On our return from Arizona at the end of March I found a large envelope from VAC. Before opening it, I told me wife that my claim was no doubt refused and it will be interesting to see what comes next. The first thing I saw when I opened the envelop was the statement that my claim was approved and I would be receiving a cash award of a bit over $30K. (on reflection this was for both hearing loss and tinnitus.) A letter with my VAC card and other paperwork followed, but they wanted another hearing test and a prescription for hearing aids from our family doctor before they would approve my hearing aids. All that is submitted now, so it is just a matter of a few weeks wait now.

I drooped the requested documents off at the clinic yesterday morning just after 0800. The clinic staff told me it would take two to four weeks for VAC to process it, but this afternoon they phoned to say it was all approved. So I am being fitted at 1300 on 19 April. Can't complain about that!

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #78 on: April 07, 2016, 17:57:27 »
Should I initiate a claim now? I didn't know proximity to the airfield could be used as a factor. When I was deployed, I was staying in the first row of tents right next to the runway.

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #79 on: April 07, 2016, 18:01:43 »
On the minus side, it's one less excuse for not hearing your wife when she wants you to do something...
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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #80 on: April 07, 2016, 18:05:42 »
On the minus side, it's one less excuse for not hearing your wife when she wants you to do something...

Ah, but then you have to contend with the screaming voice after she's tried to get your attention three times...

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #81 on: April 07, 2016, 19:32:30 »
Should I initiate a claim now? I didn't know proximity to the airfield could be used as a factor. When I was deployed, I was staying in the first row of tents right next to the runway.

The decision of whether or not to initiate your claim is entirely up to you. It won't hurt since you can appeal or pursue other avenues but without a diagnosis you could be in for a headache.

As per your situation, request to see a specialist. You will need to establish a connection between your service and condition for which you are claiming. When you complete the QOL questionnaire do not be afraid to use adjectives and verbs. Also keep in mind that you should write it in a sense of how your condition affects you at it's worst, not how it is affecting you at that moment. I'm not a wiz with VAC but I believe the disability award is calculated at increments starting at 5%, 10%, 15% and so on (Service Related + QOL = Percentage).

If you need any guidance try the SMEs here or visit your local legion and speak with their advocate/liaison officer.

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #82 on: April 07, 2016, 20:05:37 »
Should I initiate a claim now? I didn't know proximity to the airfield could be used as a factor. When I was deployed, I was staying in the first row of tents right next to the runway.

My claim was denied, which I am appealing and I worked on the ramp and flew for over 20 years. It's really a crap shoot with VAC!

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #83 on: April 28, 2016, 16:59:09 »
Went to see the CF specialist. He acknowledged that I have tinnitus but wasn't interested in really hearing anything I had to say. All he kept repeating is that I had no hearing loss and that I keep H1. I wasn't there to change my medical category but that's what it seemed worried him the most.

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #84 on: April 28, 2016, 22:39:22 »
Did you ask for a referral to an audiologist for a tinnitus assessment, meni0n?

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #85 on: April 28, 2016, 23:49:33 »
I was told that was the specialist and he did assess me having tinnitus. Is there anything else I should be doing if I was assessed having it?

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #86 on: April 29, 2016, 08:37:04 »
Was this doctor an ENT?  If that's the case, then he's probably not the one to be doing a tinnitus assessment.  When I was in, the ENT at the base hospital referred me to an audiologist for a tinnitus assessment.  It's a specific battery of tests that would never normally be done as part of a normal hearing test - http://journals.lww.com/thehearingjournal/Fulltext/2001/11000/What_the_practitioner_should_know_about_tinnitus.9.aspx

The tinnitus assessment takes over an hour to complete, and is much more in depth than a simple audiogram.  You'd be listening to speech/sounds while noise is also being generated into your ear, and other more complicated testing.  The report generated would describe the perceived frequency and amplitude of the tinnitus, and also describe if anything aids in reducing its effect.  This is critical information if a masker or hearing aid was ever going to be prescribed.  I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling that you had an actual tinnitus assessment, from the way you're describing it.

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #87 on: April 29, 2016, 12:56:28 »
Was this doctor an ENT?  If that's the case, then he's probably not the one to be doing a tinnitus assessment.  When I was in, the ENT at the base hospital referred me to an audiologist for a tinnitus assessment.  It's a specific battery of tests that would never normally be done as part of a normal hearing test - http://journals.lww.com/thehearingjournal/Fulltext/2001/11000/What_the_practitioner_should_know_about_tinnitus.9.aspx

The tinnitus assessment takes over an hour to complete, and is much more in depth than a simple audiogram.  You'd be listening to speech/sounds while noise is also being generated into your ear, and other more complicated testing.  The report generated would describe the perceived frequency and amplitude of the tinnitus, and also describe if anything aids in reducing its effect.  This is critical information if a masker or hearing aid was ever going to be prescribed.  I don't have a warm fuzzy feeling that you had an actual tinnitus assessment, from the way you're describing it.


I applied for hearing loss and tinnitus in my right ear due to the trade i'm in. While I did have some hearing loss it was on the cusp of having a award for it. I did get a 10 or 12% settlement for the tinnitus and i'm sure I never had a assessment and that was at Stad. Fast forward 5 years and my recent hearing is now is down another level to the limit for my trade and they gave me a hearing aid. Guess I should apply again for the hearing loss.
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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #88 on: April 29, 2016, 18:07:39 »
Mine was at Stad too - tinnitus assessment was done at Audiology Associates in 2007-ish, prescribed my hearing aid in 2008 in time for a posting to Ottawa.

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #89 on: April 29, 2016, 18:38:45 »
Mine was at Stad too - tinnitus assessment was done at Audiology Associates in 2007-ish, prescribed my hearing aid in 2008 in time for a posting to Ottawa.

Weird, never had to go outside. It appears I never had an assessment either. Based my claim on the hearing loss and the interview I had with a doctor over the phone with VAC.
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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #90 on: April 29, 2016, 22:47:48 »
I was tested at Stad in 2010, was given an award for I got a small pay out in 2011.  Just recently was retested here in Ottawa, I am now on the cusp of needing a hearing aid.  Will see what comes of it all, just starting initial talks with the ENT.  I suppose I should see what I should to with VAC about the new downgraded hearing levels.

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #91 on: April 30, 2016, 11:25:51 »
can you have separate awards for each ear?
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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #92 on: April 30, 2016, 16:46:00 »
I don't know, but my award was for both ears as I have it in both.

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #93 on: April 30, 2016, 22:56:19 »
can you have separate awards for each ear?

Tinnitus is awarded without regard to whether it's one ear, the other, or both.

Hearing loss is awarded by using dB loss figures from both ears to determine an overall disability rating for hearing loss.

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Re: Tinnitus Anyone approved, without having prior med docs?
« Reply #94 on: May 11, 2016, 21:35:41 »
Well I put in a claim about two weeks ago and it is already at stage 2 while a different claim have been sitting at stage 1 for about 3 months now. Let's see how this goes.

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VAC and Tinnitus
« Reply #95 on: July 24, 2018, 19:53:22 »
I apologize in advance if I posted this on the wrong fourm/thread. Ive done a search and surfed through numerous pages relating to this subject that hasnt been updated in a year or two.

Ive submitted a Tinnitus claim back in March, and after reading many old posts, havent seen much information on the percentage people have gotten. Or even had to send their claim back for a review.

As im waiting the more im becoming worried of having to take another number and waiting as im already on Step 2 of the whole process. I went to the MIR, got my Part 1 medical done again and have dropped down a level on my left ear. After that I saw a MO and told me I have bilateral tinnitus. From there submitted my VAC application a few weeks after of deciding if I wanted to claim it, and I did. Now, there was much stating on VAC application that really relates to tinnitus, other then the section where you fill out how else your diagnosis effects your life. Too quickly sum it up I stated that I periodically have a buzzing sound in my ears throughout the day on a regular basis, and is active every night after a few minutes of trying to sleep consistently.

The more im thinking about this and how long this process is taking I dont want recieve a letter stating bad news. Just want to wash my hands of this and be over this.

Now some of you guys maybe skeptical that im just a guy trying to play system which im not. I know of people that have and it truly disgusts me. Ive been in for over 10 years Reg Force infantry (Pro Patria) and have been deployed to Afghanistan.

Now my question is anyone who is, or has been in the same boat as I am, would this information be enough? Im at the point in which I want to request to go see a specialist off base and get a civilian professional too back this up even more. Just want this to be successful in one shot, thanks!

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Re: VAC and Tinnitus
« Reply #96 on: July 24, 2018, 20:14:11 »
I waited 9 months to be told that my tinnitus didn't happen in the Army. Even with testing done and everything submitted. Apparently it developed during school afterwards, in the loud part of the library. Best of luck to you. There are ways to fight the outcome if it is one you don't like. I hear the legion is pretty good at helping as well.
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Re: VAC and Tinnitus
« Reply #97 on: July 24, 2018, 20:16:06 »
The only question I could see is “ how is the tinnitus service related?” If you can prove that and you’ve had the tinnitus diagnosis longer than  six months you should get a favourable decision.

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Re: VAC and Tinnitus
« Reply #98 on: July 24, 2018, 20:24:23 »
Well I didnt notice till it till a level 4.5 live fire range in 2010, and I got in early 2008. Which was all documented in my statement but never went to the MIR. Just thought everybody had it, then had a M203 HE detonate 50m from me. Still never went to the MIR but was only recently that its really bothering my sleep. Which is why I went to the MIR to see if there was anything I could do, which I appearently didnt know there wasnt and was informed about VAC.

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Re: VAC and Tinnitus
« Reply #99 on: July 24, 2018, 20:53:51 »
If the MIR is noticing hearing loss, you're probably set for your claim to be approved. I had to see an ENT a few years back for an unrelated issue, and he made sure I got a proper hearing test done (probably didn't hurt his bottom line, though) so that I would have a really good baseline hearing test as opposed to the simple one in the booth that the MIR does. His thought was we are constantly exposed to loud noise in the CAF, so if there was ever a question I can refer to those test levels to prove I've got hearing problems (thankfully nothing yet). The process will be long, but you should be fine.