Hamas invaded Israel 2023

[FSTO]

Really don't know what to make of this guy. I think the Ryerson College Law Students who penned that drivel should maybe go and work in Syria or Iran and really see what a genocidal state looks like. Their statement may not have breeched the bar of anti-Semitism but it sure crossed into a dimension of abject idiocy and lack of awareness.

TMU report demonstrates the perils and chilling effects of university speech

A much-anticipated external report, headed by former Nova Scotia Chief Justice J. Michael MacDonald, has found that students at Toronto Metropolitan University’s law school were exercising their freedom of expression and did not engage in antisemitism when they penned an infamous and offensive...

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[The Bread Guy]

Survey says ...

Campus Encampments: Generational divide over support for pro-Palestinian camps, length of time they can stay -

Near half of 18-34s in U.S., Canada say ‘several months’ of camps is fine; majority of 55+s disagree June 3, 2024 – As universities across the country celebrate convocations, some of Canada’s largest institutions do so in the face of pro-Palestinian encampments entrenched on university grounds...

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Some tidbits ...

 

[The Bread Guy]

Survey says: lotsa support in Canada, U.S. for some ceasefire ....

More here

Israel-Gaza Ceasefire: In both Canada and US, majority say hostilities should end immediately -

Two-in-five say permanent ceasefire needed, one-in-five would pause fighting temporarily June 6, 2024 – U.S. President Joe Biden made his strongest statement against the Israeli military action in Gaza to date last week when he called for an end to hostilities. His proposal for ceasefire was...

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[KevinB]

Survey says: lotsa support in Canada, U.S. for some ceasefire ....
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Israel-Gaza Ceasefire: In both Canada and US, majority say hostilities should end immediately -

Two-in-five say permanent ceasefire needed, one-in-five would pause fighting temporarily June 6, 2024 – U.S. President Joe Biden made his strongest statement against the Israeli military action in Gaza to date last week when he called for an end to hostilities. His proposal for ceasefire was...

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And since non are a party to the conflict - none of it matters…

 

[Furniture]

And since non are a party to the conflict - none of it matters…

I suspect a lot of the people wanting a ceasefire are the same types that want us to not interfere in other nation's affairs...

 

[daftandbarmy]

Survey says: lotsa support in Canada, U.S. for some ceasefire ....
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Israel-Gaza Ceasefire: In both Canada and US, majority say hostilities should end immediately -

Two-in-five say permanent ceasefire needed, one-in-five would pause fighting temporarily June 6, 2024 – U.S. President Joe Biden made his strongest statement against the Israeli military action in Gaza to date last week when he called for an end to hostilities. His proposal for ceasefire was...

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Meanwhile, I believe this is what the Israelis hear

 

[Halifax Tar]

I suspect a lot of the people wanting a ceasefire are the same types that want us to not interfere in other nation's affairs...

The same ones who want us out of NATO and to be purely peacekeepers.

 

[OldSolduer]

I suspect a lot of the people wanting a ceasefire are the same types that want us to not interfere in other nation's affairs...

The overwhelming majority of Canadians have never had a TERRORIST organization kidnap, rape and murder fellow Canadians. Time for the "negotiated settlement" crowd to STFU.

 

[dimsum]

The overwhelming majority of Canadians have never had a TERRORIST organization kidnap, rape and murder fellow Canadians.

That’s a….good thing, right?

 

[RangerRay]

Survey says: lotsa support in Canada, U.S. for some ceasefire ....
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Israel-Gaza Ceasefire: In both Canada and US, majority say hostilities should end immediately -

Two-in-five say permanent ceasefire needed, one-in-five would pause fighting temporarily June 6, 2024 – U.S. President Joe Biden made his strongest statement against the Israeli military action in Gaza to date last week when he called for an end to hostilities. His proposal for ceasefire was...

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Everyone wants a cease fire.

The question is what conditions are they willing to accept for one.

Also, I’m sure the belligerents couldn’t give a toss what Canadians, who have no skin in the game, think.

 

[OldSolduer]

That’s a….good thing, right?

Yes it is a very good thing - but since it hasn't happened to us are we in any position to dictate to another democracy as to how they should do business, providing it is not manifestly illegal?

 

[NavyShooter]

Actually.

Arguably, it did happen.

FLQ Crisis. Kidnappings, bombings, murders...

 

[daftandbarmy]

Yes it is a very good thing - but since it hasn't happened to us are we in any position to dictate to another democracy as to how they should do business, providing it is not manifestly illegal?

We have over 110,000 dead from two European/ World Wars that give us a place on the podium, I would say...

 

[Eaglelord17]

Actually.

Arguably, it did happen.

FLQ Crisis. Kidnappings, bombings, murders...

And we didn’t proceed to raise Quebec to the ground in response. Same with the IRA, Britain didn’t decimate Northern Ireland.

Yes it is a very good thing - but since it hasn't happened to us are we in any position to dictate to another democracy as to how they should do business, providing it is not manifestly illegal?

Because ‘manifestly illegal’ and ethically wrong are two different things. It used to be legal to kill people provided you didn’t hide doing it. Doesn’t make it ethical.

We also provide said country millions of dollars in military equipment each year, we have some level of responsibility as to how its used. Especially once we see how they are using it.

 

[KevinB]

And we didn’t proceed to raise Quebec to the ground in response. Same with the IRA, Britain didn’t decimate Northern Ireland.

I’d suggest if Quebecers came across to Ontario and killed 2,500 English Canadians tomorrow, and had a population that grossly supported it, that the rest of Canada would probably go full ‘do the whole fucking village’ on Quebec.

Because ‘manifestly illegal’ and ethically wrong are two different things. It used to be legal to kill people provided you didn’t hide doing it. Doesn’t make it ethical.

Who’s ethics?

We also provide said country millions of dollars in military equipment each year, we have some level of responsibility as to how it’s used. Especially once we see how they are using it.

Canada sells some sub components, but actually buys a lot more stuff from Israel.

 

[RangerRay]

We have over 110,000 dead from two European/ World Wars that give us a place on the podium, I would say...

And the world and our allies are annoyed that we are still riding around on those coattails.

 

[ueo]

Yes it is a very good thing - but since it hasn't happened to us are we in any position to dictate to another democracy as to how they should do business, providing it is not manifestly illegal?

Just fer fun, throw your mind back to Warerhole Sr response to the Flq thing in '70. Closest we've come and military/civ pol involvement was huge as was the initial level of civilian outrage that quickly abated by about Jan of the fol yr.( Bit more than one news cycle, but not by much as we still had to rely on newspapers and TV/radio.)

 

[abduly85]

This is just in, the UN officially adds Israel to its blacklist of 'countries that kill children.'

Same blacklist alongside ISIS, Al-Qaeda, Boko Haram... And rightly so. Too bad it only happened after Israel killed 15,000 children, made 17,000 children orphan and made Gaza the largest population of child amputees in the world!

Hopefully, the GoC acts on this (and on the ICC/ICJ developments) to start an arms embargo and reduce diplomatic relations with Israel.

Now cue the "the UN is Hamas" charge!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1799101522720264544

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

You seem to forget that most on here have probably had dealings with the UN............so their 'list' of anything means less then zero to us.

Not to mention when you put quotations on words that means you don't change it,.....you know,....quoting something??
Kill/ harm?? I'd like to see the war that didn't get children harmed.

 

[Good2Golf]

This is just in, the UN officially adds Israel to its blacklist of 'countries that kill children.'

So when do we see the UN officially add Palestine to its blacklist of ‘countries that kill children?’