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I’ll send you the deets when they are published.
Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???
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On one hand, glad he's gone. On the other hand, nice to see a politician that actually is committed to his ideals.
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What Carney needs to be careful with is a splitter, fringe group breaking away under Stevie or another.Given all his faults, and given the CF spells Honorary Colonel without the “u,” I’m willing to overlook that one
Better late than never. Let’s see how much that helps fumigate the PMJT stench from Cabinet.
I don’t believe Karina Gould is a happy camper since she got bounced from Cabinet. Same with Erskine.
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This is not the the Liberal party they signed up for in 2015/2019.
No one ends up as head of a large corporation without learning how to read their colleagues and potential opponents who are often one and the same and defending against them. Guilbeault never appeared to me to be a true leader. I think his greater worry is having one or two resign from parliament. Would make his position a little more precarious.
daftandbarmy
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It’s like more like Paul Matrin Jr’s brief lived government. I had a lot of respect for him but the hole he had to climb out of from JC was too deep.
Maxman1
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QV
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Dude this was pointed out plenty back in Trudeau’s era, this can’t be the first time you you’ve seen this.
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He won't win an election like that. The progressive left will leave back to NDP and if there's no tangible results to reduce inflation/cost of living he'll be campaigning on a bad record of a tired party missing the pillar that propped them up for so long. Current LPC needs the far left and there is way more likely a caucus revolt brewing against Carney than PP.
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Despite all the yipping, yapping and yelling more and more I’m feeling that Pierre Poilievre and Mark Carney are in lock step on just about everything related to economics, national industrial policy, and the military. The wide deltas are in Home Secretary issues (citizenship, social and political policy ranging from immigration, criminalizing hate speech and gun control) and Foreign Ministry policy ( palestine, Israel, climate).
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Yes, indeed it will. I want to see the CPC and LPC battle it out for the political center, this could be such a move
Indeed it will. Those swing voters are very flexible, if this bears fruit, Pierre is going to have big problems.
I think this started to happen, look at the antisemitic petition pushed and signed by only 27 LPC members. The party IMO held together to the budget pushed, now that there is a little breathing room, PM MC may have to show us once and for all, he is not for these detrative Trudeau era losers (Uncle Mark, your starting to earn my respect again).
MilEME09
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Really depends how much of the red tory faction they can pull over, because if they can drop the radical left to the NDP but gain the centrists from the CPC, thats a net win, especially in southern Ontario which would likely propel then to a majority government
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Red tory is not quantifiable and is used by LPC faithful to hope they can get some swing votes. Its pretty similar to the irrelevance of PPC on the electoral landscape.
CPC pulled their highest vote total and percentage share since Mulroney, and only lost because of the actually quantifiable collapse of the NDP as a viable party. LPC has been courting the far left votes for years with ideologues like Guillbreault. If and when they abandon back to Green/NDP due to this pipeline agreement, Carney will crash and burn. Look how fast they tossed their star child Trudeau away when his best before date was done.
CPC pulled their highest vote total and percentage share since Mulroney, and only lost because of the actually quantifiable collapse of the NDP as a viable party. LPC has been courting the far left votes for years with ideologues like Guillbreault. If and when they abandon back to Green/NDP due to this pipeline agreement, Carney will crash and burn. Look how fast they tossed their star child Trudeau away when his best before date was done.
daftandbarmy
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He wasn't radical enough for some of the enviro-crowd though...
‘I came into politics so I could continue to be an activist’: Steven Guilbeault on oil, idealism and being branded a traitor
After he was appointed environment minister, Guilbeault repeatedly delayed approving the Bay du Nord project, giving hope to activists that years of fierce opposition were paying off. But in April, subjecting the company to 137 conditions, including that the project would reach net zero emissions by 2050, Guilbeault approved it.
‘I came into politics so I could continue to be an activist’: Steven Guilbeault on oil, idealism and being branded a traitor
Nicknamed ‘Green Jesus’, Canada’s environment minister once scaled the CN Tower in a climate protest. Ahead of efforts at Cop15 in Montreal to stop the destruction of nature, he explains why he approved a controversial oil project
www.theguardian.com
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The more the Liberal Party becomes the party of St. Laurent - a PM Carney considers the last great builder of Canada - the more light blues will go red and blue goes very dark blue.
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I agree.
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I think a fair number of blue will go over to him, for the following reasons.
1) He continues to spend $ on the CAF
2) He pulls off a oil pipeline, more LNG and Nuclear
3) He creates a more business centric environment
4) He continues to say things like ‘no more feminist foreign policy
5) He removes the remaining EV pillars
6) He solidifies a working relationship with Alberta and keeps Ontario happy
7) Throws more NSS work at the Maritimes
The guy will be golden.
That's what $1.1 billion per year gets ya these days...
