Liberal Minority Government 2025 - ???

[Navy_Pete]

Doesn't military pay go into operational spending/personnel spending as opposed to capital spending?

Seems weird it would be classified as weapon systems.

There was a very broad breakdown in the August change that I read at the time, and yes, SWE is O&M, but that was a part of it.

Because there is a lot of capitol funding, everything that can be is being pushed at capitol improvements, and a few years ago some accounting weenie created 'capitolized NP' as another class for any asset over $30k so created a lot of havoc on the Mat side for buying parts.

I'm glad to only be adjacent to that in my current job vice responsible for it, and really don't miss the charge in Jan/Feb to get the final budgets in (after doing it in Oct-Dec), the churn when you budgets don't get released in April, and the insanity when all of a sudden you get money in Aug/Sep/Oct and people want to push you to spend it when it takes 4-6+ months to get into contract and take delivery on an optimistic side for most equipment (with more specialized things that are made to order taking several years).

 

[QV]

Is it possible that Carney masqueraded as a climate zealot all these years only to wedge his way into leadership of the modern Liberal Party where he would then shake off the zealotry and steer the party back from the radical left?

 

[brihard]

Doesn't military pay go into operational spending/personnel spending as opposed to capital spending?

Seems weird it would be classified as weapon systems.

Government operational expenditures count towards GDP. It’s not just capital purchases. Wages are part of GDP whether you work private sector or public.

 

[Lumber]

Is it possible that Carney masqueraded as a climate zealot all these years only to wedge his way into leadership of the modern Liberal Party where he would then shake off the zealotry and steer the party back from the radical left?

Yes. It's also possible he was never a "Zealot" and just appreciates we need to be better stewards of the environment but who's number one priority is the prosperity of Canada.

 

[Remius]

Is it possible that Carney masqueraded as a climate zealot all these years only to wedge his way into leadership of the modern Liberal Party where he would then shake off the zealotry and steer the party back from the radical left?

More likely he is a pragmatic man looking at the shit show south of us and the long term impact it will have on the world and has shelved some values to prioritize interests that will blunt some of the damage being done.

 

[MilEME09]

Yes. It's also possible he was never a "Zealot" and just appreciates we need to be better stewards of the environment but who's number one priority is the prosperity of Canada.

Almost as if he believes in actually balancing the environment and the economy, instead of tipping the scale to the environment, the devil will be in the details though of how he deals with opposition in BC

 

[Altair]

Government operational expenditures count towards GDP. It’s not just capital purchases. Wages are part of GDP whether you work private sector or public.

Naturally.

But according to stats Canada, the growth was in capital expenses, specifically classified as weapon systems purchases.

Not discounting the operational expenses, just saying that capital expenses was what was identified as the driver of GDP growth.

0.6 growth of the Canadian GDP of 2.723 trillion works out to 16b in growth for the quarter, of which 1/5 was identified as capital spending increases, up 82 percent.

So that would mean 2.5 to 3 billion going to weapons systems.

 

[IKnowNothing]

More likely he is a pragmatic man looking at the shit show south of us and the long term impact it will have on the world and has shelved some values to prioritize interests that will blunt some of the damage being done.

Bingo - essentially a Maslow's Hierarchy modified for business/governance.

 

[suffolkowner]

As a climate zealot i am not overly impressed

 

[MilEME09]

Naturally.

But according to stats Canada, the growth was in capital expenses, specifically classified as weapon systems purchases.

Not discounting the operational expenses, just saying that capital expenses was what was identified as the driver of GDP growth.

0.6 growth of the Canadian GDP of 2.723 trillion works out to 16b in growth for the quarter, of which 1/5 was identified as capital spending increases, up 82 percent.

So that would mean 2.5 to 3 billion going to weapons systems.

wonder if it was munitions orders part of standing agreements?

 

[Altair]

wonder if it was munitions orders part of standing agreements?

No idea.

I've read multiple articles and gone to stats Canada and nobody is elaborating.

But 82 percent increase due to standing agreements? Sounds like a lot.

 

[MilEME09]

No idea.

I've read multiple articles and gone to stats Canada and nobody is elaborating.

But 82 percent increase due to standing agreements? Sounds like a lot.

Well everyone wants their orders in so its delivered before March 31st, with the budget increase that was given this year to 2% probably a lo of money to blow asap

 

[Altair]

Well everyone wants their orders in so its delivered before March 31st, with the budget increase that was given this year to 2% probably a lo of money to blow asap

My poor brain.

Was the money greenlit before the budget in November?

Edit: 9b for 2025-2026, so 3 billion on weapons systems tracks.

 

[MilEME09]

My poor brain.

Was the money greenlit before the budget in November?

Yes in june

But here's a full breakdown to help us

Quarterly Financial Report (QFR) for the quarter ended September 30, 2025 - Canada.ca

www.canada.ca

 

[Altair]

Yes in june

But here's a full breakdown to help us

Quarterly Financial Report (QFR) for the quarter ended September 30, 2025 - Canada.ca

www.canada.ca

Yeah, 9 billion additional for the fiscal year, 3 billion on weapons systems tracks.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I didnt know where to put this so I will deposit it here.

Not an indication of this Gov. More as a further example of our failed systems.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1993818317199487345

 

[Altair]

I didnt know where to put this so I will deposit it here.

Not an indication of this Gov. More as a further example of our failed systems.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1993818317199487345

I was wondering what's wrong with impregnating a stepsister.

But forcing yourself on a 13 year old stepsister is indeed, very wrong.

Talk about burying the lead.