Canada moves to 2% GDP end of FY25/26 - PMMC

[suffolkowner]

Blackhawks about to be announced for SOF.

Article link removed by moderators IAW site policy not quoting a specific reporter due to past legal action.

And hopefully soon after Seahawks as the Cyclone replacement. Nice win-win way for both sides to get out of the Cyclone.

Interesting ideas emerging for nTACS. Especially if you consider that the only Canadian helicopter builder is the one building the Future Vertical Lift winner in the US. And that program calls for both medium lift and attack-reconnaisance platforms.

i wonder how much pushback in the media there is going to be with these American purchases?

 

[Good2Golf]

i wonder how much pushback in the media there is going to be with these American purchases?

The de-linked article does not identify specifically what type/make of helicopters will be procured.

 

[Cloud Cover]

The de-linked article does not identify specifically what type/make of helicopters will be procured.

Perhaps they are cleverly disguised as faucons noirs nes Cadillacs.

 

[GR66]

The de-linked article does not identify specifically what type/make of helicopters will be procured.

@Retired AF Guy posted back at the end of December that Noah was reporting on his True North Strategic Review substack that it was MH-60M's that we were expected to get.Future Helicopters

 

[Good2Golf]

@Retired AF Guy posted back at the end of December that Noah was reporting on his True North Strategic Review substack that it was MH-60M's that we were expected to get.

Which is different than the aforementioned article upthread, which refers specifically only to the nTACS program, which has not designated a specific platform or manufacturer.

 

[Cloud Cover]

@Retired AF Guy posted back at the end of December that Noah was reporting on his True North Strategic Review substack that it was MH-60M's that we were expected to get.Future Helicopters

Did Noah not backtrack on that today?

 

[NavyShooter]

The key with getting 'new' helicopters will be to get them used from somewhere else than our southern neighbour.

Y'know, like maybe buying the airframes that the US left behind in Afghanistan? Then we do an 'upgrade' to them?

Or, maybe buy used SH-60s from Australia and refurbish them? Then we're not 'buying american'??

 

[ytz]

The de-linked article does not identify specifically what type/make of helicopters will be procured.

Aside from what Noah said, the rumint has been that this is part of a deal with Sikorsky to ditch the Cyclone which is also costing them money. So they cut us a deal on Romeos and Whiskeys. They get out of the loss making Cyclone. We get out of the unreliable Cyclone.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Aside from what Noah said, the rumint has been that this is part of a deal with Sikorsky to ditch the Cyclone which is also costing them money. So they cut us a deal on Romeos and Whiskeys. They get out of the loss making Cyclone. We get out of the unreliable Cyclone.

Please tell me that we are getting more than 28

 

[Halifax Tar]

Blackhawks about to be announced for SOF.

Article link removed by moderators IAW site policy not quoting a specific reporter due to past legal action.

And hopefully soon after Seahawks as the Cyclone replacement. Nice win-win way for both sides to get out of the Cyclone.

Interesting ideas emerging for nTACS. Especially if you consider that the only Canadian helicopter builder is the one building the Future Vertical Lift winner in the US. And that program calls for both medium lift and attack-reconnaisance platforms.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Will the Cyclone's be good for anything? I mean under our definition of 'used', they will actually be pretty brand new.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Will the Cyclone's be good for anything? I mean under our definition of 'used', they will actually be pretty brand new.

Targets ?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Targets ?

Seriously, that's it? I mean, can't they be used for SAR?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Seriously, that's it? I mean, can't they be used for SAR?

Just giving my opinion. Its worth no technical value.

 

[Rifleman62]

The year 2033 is not fast procurement.

 

[ytz]

The year 2033 is not fast procurement.

Media reporting is going off published dates. Let's just say in this new world, things move a lot faster. And well SOF doesn't bother much with public timelines.

 

[ytz]

Seriously, that's it? I mean, can't they be used for SAR?

Cyclones have reliability issues. Not sure it's good to have a SAR fleet with high unreliability.

 

[dapaterson]

Seriously, that's it? I mean, can't they be used for SAR?

As an orphan fleet, there's poor sparing and availability.

The goal is to get out of niche, Canada only fleets.

 

[suffolkowner]

As an orphan fleet, there's poor sparing and availability.

The goal is to get out of niche, Canada only fleets.

So Sikorsky/LM takes them back and strips what they can maybe?

 

[dapaterson]

So Sikorsky/LM takes them back and strips what they can maybe?

Anything after "Sik/LM" takes them back should be irrelevant to the CAF.