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2026 US-Denmark Tensions/End of NATO

News out of France - This will not be the last of this, the snowball has just started its run down the slope.

www.reuters.com

Denmark to cooperate with France on nuclear deterrence

Denmark has entered ‌an agreement on strategic nuclear deterrence with France, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said on Monday.
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Denmark to cooperate with France on nuclear deterrence​

Denmark has entered ‌an agreement on strategic nuclear deterrence with France, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said on Monday.

www.theguardian.com

France to increase nuclear arsenal and European weapons cooperation, Macron says

French president says Paris could deploy nuclear-capable fighter jets to countries such as Germany and Poland
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France to increase nuclear arsenal and European weapons cooperation, Macron says​

French president says Paris could deploy nuclear-capable fighter jets to countries such as Germany and Poland
France will increase the size of its nuclear arsenal for the first time in decades and significantly intensify nuclear weapons cooperation with eight European allies including the UK as part of a “major” strengthening of its deterrence doctrine, Emmanuel Macron has said.

I take the news that the UK is teaming up with the French because they have begun to realize that hitching their wagon to the US in terms of Nuclear weapons access/production may not be a prudent thing going forward.
Talks on enhanced cooperation had already started with the UK, Germany, Poland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, Sweden and Denmark, he added. The new model would allow France’s strategic deterrent to be “spread across the European continent” to “complicate the calculations of our adversaries”, Macron said. The doctrine could also involve “the conventional participation of allied forces in our nuclear activities”, he added.
 
Czech_pivo said:
News out of France - This will not be the last of this, the snowball has just started its run down the slope.

www.reuters.com

Denmark to cooperate with France on nuclear deterrence

Denmark has entered ‌an agreement on strategic nuclear deterrence with France, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said on Monday.
www.reuters.com www.reuters.com

Denmark to cooperate with France on nuclear deterrence​

Denmark has entered ‌an agreement on strategic nuclear deterrence with France, Danish Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen said on Monday.

www.theguardian.com

France to increase nuclear arsenal and European weapons cooperation, Macron says

French president says Paris could deploy nuclear-capable fighter jets to countries such as Germany and Poland
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

France to increase nuclear arsenal and European weapons cooperation, Macron says​

French president says Paris could deploy nuclear-capable fighter jets to countries such as Germany and Poland
France will increase the size of its nuclear arsenal for the first time in decades and significantly intensify nuclear weapons cooperation with eight European allies including the UK as part of a “major” strengthening of its deterrence doctrine, Emmanuel Macron has said.

I take the news that the UK is teaming up with the French because they have begun to realize that hitching their wagon to the US in terms of Nuclear weapons access/production may not be a prudent thing going forward.
Talks on enhanced cooperation had already started with the UK, Germany, Poland, the Netherlands, Belgium, Greece, Sweden and Denmark, he added. The new model would allow France’s strategic deterrent to be “spread across the European continent” to “complicate the calculations of our adversaries”, Macron said. The doctrine could also involve “the conventional participation of allied forces in our nuclear activities”, he added.
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Having their sovereignty threatened by a super power will sort of push them in that direction.
 
Blackadder1916 said:
They both are normally prepared to deploy within 5 days from their reduced operating status (ROS). Obviously, that is likely not achievable if they are in dry dock or in a maintenance cycle.
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Hospital ship USNS MERCY is currently on the west side of the Panama Canal, enroute to Portland for refit and overhaul.
Hospital ship USNS COMFORT is alongside her home port in Mobile and is in an unloaded state.
 
Czech_pivo said:
Nuclear proliferation brought to you by Donald J Trump.
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To be clear I don’t believe most of these countries actually will do so. I wouldn’t be surprised if a couple of them do. I can’t say which ones save that I’d gauge Japan is least likely, and I’d contend Taiwan maybe needs them the most but may face the greatest barriers. I’d feel Poland as most likely but I don’t have much to base that on.
 
brihard said:
To be clear I don’t believe most of these countries actually will do so. I wouldn’t be surprised if a couple of them do. I can’t say which ones save that I’d gauge Japan is least likely, and I’d contend Taiwan maybe needs them the most but may face the greatest barriers. I’d feel Poland as most likely but I don’t have much to base that on.
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Poland with RoK a close second. RoK could then be a ‘France’ *for Taiwan.
 
brihard said:
To be clear I don’t believe most of these countries actually will do so. I wouldn’t be surprised if a couple of them do. I can’t say which ones save that I’d gauge Japan is least likely, and I’d contend Taiwan maybe needs them the most but may face the greatest barriers. I’d feel Poland as most likely but I don’t have much to base that on.
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I think that Poland will and they will receive support/help from France. Poland is simply not willing to go under again, to fall, after the amount of destruction they dealt with since their declaration of independence in 1918 - invaded by Soviet Union in 1919-1921, invaded by Germany in 1939, invaded by the Soviet Union again in 1939 and invaded yet again by the Soviet Union in 1994-45 and finally the Polish/Soviet Communist Coup in 1947.

Ukraine will obtain them if they are able based on whatever sort of peace treaty comes about. I can see Poland helping them as well and the two of them having some sort of mutual support agreeement.

SK will go this route, obtaining nuclear weapons as well, timeline is unknown.

Taiwan and Japan are wild cards, as you pointed out.

It was interesting that Italy was not one of the 8 countries that are working with France under their soon to be expanded nuclear programme/umbrella.
 
Czech_pivo said:
The Walrus weighing in on Canada and nucs.

Canada Once Had Nukes. We Might Need to Bring Them Back​

As trust in the US fades, Ottawa faces pressure to join a new European deterrent​


thewalrus.ca

Canada Once Had Nukes. We Might Need to Bring Them Back | The Walrus

As trust in the US fades, Ottawa faces pressure to join a new European deterrent
thewalrus.ca thewalrus.ca
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Hmmm … was always under the impression that any nuclear weapons Canada possessed were in fact owned lock and stock by the United States. The Canadian Forces were merely the sub contracted delivery service.
 
Czech_pivo said:
The Walrus weighing in on Canada and nucs.

Canada Once Had Nukes. We Might Need to Bring Them Back​

As trust in the US fades, Ottawa faces pressure to join a new European deterrent​


thewalrus.ca

Canada Once Had Nukes. We Might Need to Bring Them Back | The Walrus

As trust in the US fades, Ottawa faces pressure to join a new European deterrent
thewalrus.ca thewalrus.ca
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We need to disabuse ourselves of the notion that the U.S. will permit a foreign nuclear deterrent on Canadian soil. That would baldly defy their assertion that this is 'their' security hemisphere and that only America will wield major power influence here. The trump administration would absolutely see that as an impermissible threat to them. They would no more tolerate it than Kennedy would Soviet nukes in Cuba.

It's also absurd to think any other foreign power would use nuclear weapons against the U.S. to protect Canadian sovereignty. There's no win for anyone else in that.
 
brihard said:
We need to disabuse ourselves of the notion that the U.S. will permit a foreign nuclear deterrent on Canadian soil. That would baldly defy their assertion that this is 'their' security hemisphere and that only America will wield major power influence here. The trump administration would absolutely see that as an impermissible threat to them. They would no more tolerate it than Kennedy would Soviet nukes in Cuba.

It's also absurd to think any other foreign power would use nuclear weapons against the U.S. to protect Canadian sovereignty. There's no win for anyone else in that.
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Likely only in the case where Canada was contributing to a Euro-centric effort and fell under French nuclear protective/deterrence capability.
 
www.bbc.com

Denmark planned to blow up Greenland runways if US invaded, reports say

Denmark's public broadcaster reports that the US operation to seize Venezuela's leader sparked fears it would act against Greenland.
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Danish soldiers flown to Greenland in January were prepared to blow up key airport runways over fears that US President Donald Trump could invade the Arctic island, Denmark's public broadcaster DR says.
Citing sources in the Danish government and military, and also among European allies, DR says blood supplies were also brought in to treat the wounded in the event of fighting.
The Financial Times newspaper said two European officials later confirmed the report. The Danish defence ministry told the BBC it "has no comment".
A senior Danish military official, speaking anonymously, told the BBC "only a limited number of people would have been aware of the operation for security reasons".
Both the US and Denmark are Nato members, and the issue of Greenland - a semi-autonomous part of Denmark - has deeply divided Washington and its European allies.
Trump has repeatedly said he wanted to annex Greenland during his second presidential term. Greenland's leader and Denmark have repeatedly rejected his demands to acquire the island.

DR said it based its report on 12 sources at the top of the Danish government and military, and also sources among Denmark's allies in France and Germany.
They told the broadcaster that Copenhagen asked Paris and Berlin as well as the Nordic nations for political support in dealing with Trump by demonstrating strong European solidarity and holding more joint military activities in Greenland.
But the sources say the situation escalated on 3 January when elite US forces seized Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro in a lighting operation in the capital Caracas.
The day after, Trump told reporters he would "worry about Greenland in about two months" and repeated that "we need Greenland from a national security situation. It's so strategic", adding without providing evidence: "Right now Greenland is covered with Russian and Chinese ships all over the place."
A high-ranking Danish security source told DR that "when Trump keeps saying he wants to take over Greenland, and then what happened in Venezuela happened, we had to take all scenarios seriously."
Meanwhile, a European official told the Financial Times: "After Venezuela, they [Americans] thought they could walk on water. Let's take this thing, and this country."
Soon afterwards, a small military contingent of Danish, French, German, Norwegian and Swedish soldiers was flown to the Greenland capital Nuuk and Kangerlussuaq, where there is an airport.
At the time, French President Emmanuel Macron said the initial contingent would be reinforced with "land, air, and sea assets".
DR said a follow up deployment included elite Danish soldiers and a French contingent trained for warfare in cold, mountainous areas. Danish aircraft and a French naval vessel were sent towards the North Atlantic.
The deployment was presented as part of Danish-led joint military exercises called Operation Arctic Endurance - but the real reason was to prepare for a possible US invasion, DR said.
A decision was taken by Denmark that its soldiers would fight if the US invaded and soldiers were also prepared to blow up runways in Nuuk and Kangerlussuaq to prevent US military aircraft landing there, the broadcaster said.
"The cost to the US would have to be raised. The US would have to carry out a hostile act to get Greenland," a Danish defence source told the broadcaster, while admitting that troops would have been unlikely to be able to repel a US attack.
On 21 January, Trump - who had earlier refused to rule out using force to take over Greenland - said at the World Economic forum in Davos: "I don't want to use force. I won't use force. All the United States is asking for is a place called Greenland."
Trump has since said he is seeking "immediate negotiations" to find a compromise and further defuse the row.
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This is where we've come to...NATO members deploying troops in preparation to defend against a possible American attack.
 
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