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Trump administration 2024-2028

Remius said:
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A week ago they were leaking how he said they could do it quick and how he advocated for decapitation.

It's not even just the decision to attack. We're seeing how ideology trumped competence. They didn't take up Ukraine's counter drone offer before because the leader has a crush on Putin. They didn't move the ARG into theatre earlier because "No boots on the ground.". Heck, SecWar says this is a jihad.....err crusade. Maybe that's why he didn't think planning NEO and securing FOB was important.

Now the bullshit is catching up they are panicking. Since Trump doesn't allow admitting mistakes they have no idea how to show enough contrition to save their careers without getting fired or losing the base. So they are leaking to the press about how they are innocent. Next up they leak blame about each other to the press like a bunch of catty bitches.
 
suffolkowner said:
he'd be better off with a trial run starting anytime now
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Lol. After this he's toast. He can't keep the base if he blames Trump. And nobody else is going to vote for him after this.

Retired AF Guy said:
Could be worse: Don Jr or Eric could be candidates!
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You know they'll be running. And the best part is that they can claim they're the real anti-war candidates. And they'll be endorsed by Dad. Ivanka will be the first female POTUS.
 
ytz said:
Lol. After this he's toast. He can't keep the base if he blames Trump. And nobody else is going to vote for him after this.
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I find the idea of him being a credible candidate laughable. Even amongst the MAGAs, he has the personality of a sick fish.
 
De-woking military education...

Task Force to Ensure Senior Service Colleges Focus on Building Warfighters

The War Department has launched a task force to ensure the curriculum at its institutions of higher learning is structured to build warfighters rather than social justice warriors, said Secretary of War Pete Hegseth.

"At the Department of War, we have a duty to ensure that our professional military education develops real leaders, warfighters who dominate into the future," Hegseth said. "We're committed to making our own senior service colleges maintain the highest of standards, that those places align with President [Donald J.] Trump's commitment to the American people [and] that our military will remain the strongest in history."



More on that:

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Let's just read the list out loud one more time. Seminars on genocide through the analytic of gender. Whiteness studies. Courses 𝗰𝗲𝗹𝗲𝗯𝗿𝗮𝘁𝗶𝗻𝗴 the history of H-m-s where a professor called terrorist attacks 𝘢𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘶𝘯𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘳𝘦𝘥𝘪𝘣𝘭𝘦. Graduate studies on 𝗮𝗯𝗼𝗹𝗶𝘀𝗵𝗶𝗻𝗴 𝗹𝗮𝘄 𝗲𝗻𝗳𝗼𝗿𝗰𝗲𝗺𝗲𝗻𝘁. Leadership classes built on recycled DEI frameworks.


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Guy who never attended a War College is so sure on what they need to teach....

Also, posts that whine about cultural topics covered in War College are up there with Hegseth's ignorance. War College =\= Staff College / JPME. It's not about how to learn to sink an aircraft carrier. That's the tactical level of war. War Colleges are supposed to be teaching Colonels and Future GOFOs strategy and how to integrate the rest of government into national level war plans. And yes sometimes that covers cultural education that other public servants are discussing.
 
ytz said:
Guy who never attended a War College is so sure on what they need to teach....

Also, posts that whine about cultural topics covered in War College are up there with Hegseth's ignorance. War College =\= Staff College / JPME. It's not about how to learn to sink an aircraft carrier. That's the tactical level of war. War Colleges are supposed to be teaching Colonels and Future GOFOs strategy and how to integrate the rest of government into national level war plans. And yes sometimes that covers cultural education that other public servants are discussing.
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LCols, Majors and below can sink shit and blow shit up all day long. Colonels and higher should be looking at strategy - and history.
 
OldSolduer said:
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LCols, Majors and below can sink shit and blow shit up all day long. Colonels and higher should be looking at strategy - and history.
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This is the problem with having a terminal Major dictate what Colonels and Generals should be taught.

I said before that he's their version of Paul Hellyer. I stand by it. Nothing worse than guys who served thinking they understand all of the military. Just enough knowledge to make them dangerous.
 
ytz said:
This is the problem with having a terminal Major dictate what Colonels and Generals should be taught.

I said before that he's their version of Paul Hellyer. I stand by it. Nothing worse than guys who served thinking they understand all of the military. Just enough knowledge to make them dangerous.
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You mean like the barracks room lawyer ;)

A historical point to note - JFK was the captain of PT 109 during WW2. He distrusted senior and general officers.

Paul Hellyer was a gunner in the RCA in WW2. Its likely he distrusted generals and admirals as well.
 
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OldSolduer said:
You mean like the barracks room lawyer ;)

A historical point to note - JFK was the captain of PT 109 during WW2. He distrusted senior and general officers.

Paul Hellyer was a gunner in the RCA in WW2. Its likely he distrusted generals and admirals as well.
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Ex-military as President or Prime Minister? Useful. They should know what it's like before they send men and women into harms way. Ex-military as MND, SecDef, etc? Dangerous. They tend not to understand what civilian control of the armed forces means in reality. And they are almost universally terrible at strategic management and resort to micromanaging.
 
ytz said:
Ex-military as President? Useful. They should know what it's like before they send men and women into harms way. Ex-military as MND, SecDef, etc? Dangerous. They tend not to understand what civilian control of the armed forces means in reality. And they are almost universally terrible at strategic management and resort to micromanaging.
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I can agree with your statement - it is useful but can be dangerous because of the bias one holds toward certain people and rank.

JFK was a junior officer and by most accounts his Squadron CO was a dick, therefore senior officers should not be trusted. He certainly didn't care for the Joints Chiefs of Staff....or any advice from them.
 
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Brad Sallows said:
Cultural and political indoctrination masquerading as study of culture and politics does not.
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The rub lies in who gets to decide what is political indoctrination. Dudes like you and Hegseth who never went to War College or you know the Commandant of said institutions who I trust know what they are preparing students for (being GOFOs themselves).

Also, the other problem with all these fucking stories is the level of misinformation. Some random guest lecture that happens once in their months there gets folks like you spun up after it gets through the right wing grifters and your algorithm.
 
For the record, playing the AI game, I asked 6 different systems: "Using open-source media and government sources, assess the 5 main (most frequently mentioned) goals of the U.S./Israel campaign against Iran" A fair bit of overlap, with a range of which ones jump out more to the AI borgs.

Key caveat: the bots skimmed what's been said/written in the info-sphere, and can't really read hearts/minds (yet, anyway).

Claude.ai
  • Permanently Eliminate Iran's Nuclear Program
  • Destroy Iran's Ballistic Missile Arsenal and Production Capacity
  • Annihilate Iran's Naval Forces and Protect the Strait of Hormuz
  • Sever Iran's Support for Regional Proxy Groups ("Axis of Resistance")
  • Regime Change / Enabling an Iranian Popular Uprising
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Perplexity.ai
  • Defend Israel and U.S. forces, avoid wider war
  • Degrade Iran’s regional military and proxy network
  • Prevent Iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon
  • Preserve Israeli deterrence and freedom of action
  • Push toward regime collapse/change in Iran (Israeli goal)
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ChatGPT
  • Stop an Iranian nuclear weapon
  • Cripple Iran’s missile and military strike capacity
  • Protect Israel and restore deterrence against Iran
  • Disrupt Iran’s proxy/IRGC regional network
  • Coerce or destabilize the regime sufficiently to reduce future threat generation
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Duck.ai (full text also attached because it doesn't archive questions/answers)
  • Regime Change
  • Nuclear Program Elimination
  • Destruction of Missile and Naval Capabilities
  • Targeting Leadership
  • Re-establishing Deterrence Against Global Rivals
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Grok
  • Prevent Iran from acquiring or developing nuclear weapons (permanent denial of a nuclear capability).
  • Destroy Iran’s ballistic missile arsenal, production facilities, launchers, and related capabilities.
  • Annihilate or destroy Iran’s navy and naval forces/infrastructure.
  • Dismantle Iran’s support for terrorist proxies and ensure they can no longer destabilize the region or attack U.S./Israeli forces.
  • Weaken or overthrow the Iranian regime (end the threat from the Ayatollah regime and create conditions for the Iranian people to take control/regain freedom).
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Gemini
  • Permanent Denial of Nuclear Weapons Capability
  • Destruction of Ballistic Missile and Drone Arsenals
  • Neutralization of the Iranian Navy and Maritime Denial
  • Decapitation of Leadership and Institutional Weakening
  • Dismantling the "Axis of Resistance" (Proxy Networks)
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ytz said:
The rub lies in who gets to decide what is political indoctrination. Dudes like you and Hegseth who never went to War College or you know the Commandant of said institutions who I trust know what they are preparing students for (being GOFOs themselves).

Also, the other problem with all these fucking stories is the level of misinformation. Some random guest lecture that happens once in their months there gets folks like you spun up after it gets through the right wing grifters and your algorithm.
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Even Commandants are sometimes relieved for poor judgement.

You assume an emotional burden where none exists.
 
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