Pipelines, energy and natural resources

[Czech_pivo]

And Tom Mulcair (former NDP leader and now CTV political pundit) weighs in

What’s the issue?
Provinces control resources so if they want to spend their money to build this, go ahead.

 

[lenaitch]

What’s the issue?
Provinces control resources so if they want to spend their money to build this, go ahead.

Except the federal government 'controls' the regulation of trade and commerce.

 

[Altair]

Except the federal government 'controls' the regulation of trade and commerce.

Sure, but as long as the province and feds are in agreement, this is probably the best way forward.

Feds agree, Province builds, industry benefits.

 

[MilEME09]

Sure, but as long as the province and feds are in agreement, this is probably the best way forward.

Feds agree, Province builds, industry benefits.

Exactly, we are getting LNG exports, a 1 million barrel per day pipeline for export to asia. This is all win win as the biggest O&G investment in a long time.

 

[YZT580]

A CTV video on pipelines

she said it: this is how we buy them off. Be interesting and expensive to see how much the first nations cost. B.C. for 10 billion so far

 

[Altair]

she said it: this is how we buy them off. Be interesting and expensive to see how much the first nations cost. B.C. for 10 billion so far

This is how confederation should work.

I remember saying during energy east pipeline talk about how the Feds should pump money into bombardier in exchange for Quebec dropping opposition to energy east.

The Feds under Trudeau did neither, and energy east died and bombardier gave up trying to do anything but business jets.

Compromise and quid pro quo is how to get people working together.

 

[brihard]

my reply has been supplanted by events. I like Eby's confirmation that his government will not be joining in on any court cases. Will the First Nations on the southern route back off as well? Last time I was in VR the harbour was packed solid so my next question is: Is there adequate room for more tankers? They are seriously big ships.

I’m waiting to see if the intended investment in expanding the Roberts Bank port in Delta will include an oil terminal. They can get oceangoing carriers there, it’s already a major container port and growing still larger. I can’t see the plan being simply to jam more AFRAMAX tankers into Burrard Inlet. If the intent here is Asian markets, that necessitates an ocean terminal.

We’ll hear more from Smith in a bit over an hour but it sounds like she’s happy. Eby’s commitment not to fight this in court is excellent.

 

[ArmyRick]

So we see some blah, blah, blah yay Team Canada cheering for PM MC and David Eby, and Eby celebrating the "oil tanker ban" staying in place to "protect the whales" (sure like the carbon tax saves the planet?)

I asked Google AI a question

"does the British Columbia tanker ban apply to foreign oil tankers that are passing through BC waters?"

Google AI answer

"No, the British Columbia oil tanker ban (officially known as the Oil Tanker Moratorium Act) does not ban foreign oil tankers from simply passing through Canadian waters. [1, 2, 3]"

Source listed in Department of Justice Canada.

So its ok for Trump's oil tankers to sail back and forth everyday only a few kilometers off the "tanker ban area" but damn! Canadian oil tanks shall not pass through!

I am asking for you all to stop being duped. Canada is not serious.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Given how things are shaping up, just run another line mostly down the TMX and put its terminus at Cherry Point. BC'ers can stop bitching about tankers loading at BC ports. No need to duplicate a bunch of clearances and grease another set of palms. No need for any of the communities which might have gotten to wet their beaks in a northern route to torment themselves with dreams.

 

[Czech_pivo]

News conference just starting

 

[Czech_pivo]

From what I’ve just heard, in a quick and dirty recap, Pembina Pipelines and TMX are building the pipeline and Danielle Smith said a new pipeline ‘of over a million barrels per day’.

 

[HavokFour]

From what I’ve just heard, in a quick and dirty recap, Pembina Pipelines and TMX are building the pipeline and Danielle Smith said a new pipeline ‘of over a million barrels per day’.

Alberta announces preferred new bitumen pipeline route to B.C. coast

Prime Minister Mark Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith announce a preferred route and interested parties for a new bitumen pipeline to the B.C. coast.

www.ctvnews.ca

BC will also be lending a hand in optimizing the existing Trans Mountain.

It said the capacity of that line will increase from 890,000 barrels per day to 1,190,000 barrels per day through “drag-reducing agents and mainline optimization.”

Ottawa will assist with B.C.’s capital costs and B.C. residents will also be entitled to “a fair share” of the economic benefits of the Trans Mountain optimization project.

 

[Altair]

Alberta announces preferred new bitumen pipeline route to B.C. coast

Prime Minister Mark Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith announce a preferred route and interested parties for a new bitumen pipeline to the B.C. coast.

www.ctvnews.ca

BC will also be lending a hand in optimizing the existing Trans Mountain.

Lets wait for the surreal moment where Carney is happy, Eby is happy, Smith is happy, and PP is unhappy.

 

[HavokFour]

Page is up on the Alberta website.

West coast pipeline, private partner, oilsands production and pathways

Alberta's government has submitted its application for the West Coast Oil Pipeline to the federal Major Projects Office for listing as a project of national interest.

www.alberta.ca

 

[brihard]

From what I’ve just heard, in a quick and dirty recap, Pembina Pipelines and TMX are building the pipeline and Danielle Smith said a new pipeline ‘of over a million barrels per day’.

I think the best and most important part of this is the private partner was already in place. I commented either earlier today or yesterday about the governmental involvement helping to de-risk this, and they appears to be exactly what took place- just faster than I realized. PM Carney spoke specifically to the government’s role in this as a catalyst and as helping to remove the fear of that risk.

This is a good thing. We will get another pipeline to pacific tidewater. Premier Smith spoke about a ‘VLCC-capable’ port, so we’ll hopefully see details on that in short order.

The proposal is immediately off to the major project office for consideration as a project of national interest, and quite obviously that approval will be forthcoming.

A good day for Canada for a lot of reasons.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

I’m waiting to see if the intended investment in expanding the Roberts Bank port in Delta will include an oil terminal. They can get oceangoing carriers there, it’s already a major container port and growing still larger. I can’t see the plan being simply to jam more AFRAMAX tankers into Burrard Inlet. If the intent here is Asian markets, that necessitates an ocean terminal.

We’ll hear more from Smith in a bit over an hour but it sounds like she’s happy. Eby’s commitment not to fight this in court is excellent.

I heard 10 billion in federal money for Robert’s Bank and 3 Billion for the Massey Tunnel replacement.

 

[HavokFour]

I think the best and most important part of this is the private partner was already in place. I commented either earlier today or yesterday about the governmental involvement helping to de-risk this, and they appears to be exactly what took place- just faster than I realized. PM Carney spoke specifically to the government’s role in this as a catalyst and as helping to remove the fear of that risk.

This is a good thing. We will get another pipeline to pacific tidewater. Premier Smith spoke about a ‘VLCC-capable’ port, so we’ll hopefully see details on that in short order.

The proposal is immediately off to the major project office for consideration as a project of national interest, and quite obviously that approval will be forthcoming.

A good day for Canada for a lot of reasons.

Not to mention it seems the new line will be owned by TMC, a crown corp.

So I guess the MOU that started all this might actually be serious.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Lets wait for the surreal moment where Carney is happy, Eby is happy, Smith is happy, and PP is unhappy.

The adult thing to do, is to acknowledge that in the end this will only benefit Canada.

 

[HavokFour]

Page is up on the Alberta website.

West coast pipeline, private partner, oilsands production and pathways

Alberta's government has submitted its application for the West Coast Oil Pipeline to the federal Major Projects Office for listing as a project of national interest.

www.alberta.ca

Possibly something similar to the Chrétien-Klein oil sands production agreement (oil royalties/production incentive) from way back?

Following months of negotiation, Alberta’s government, along with the federal government and Oil Sands Alliance, are finalizing a tripartite agreement that will include a series of regulatory reforms and growth incentives needed to expedite growth in oilsands production necessary to fill the new west coast pipeline and expand the existing Trans Mountain pipeline. Details of this agreement are expected to be released in the coming days

 

[Czech_pivo]

I think the best and most important part of this is the private partner was already in place. I commented either earlier today or yesterday about the governmental involvement helping to de-risk this, and they appears to be exactly what took place- just faster than I realized. PM Carney spoke specifically to the government’s role in this as a catalyst and as helping to remove the fear of that risk.

This is a good thing. We will get another pipeline to pacific tidewater. Premier Smith spoke about a ‘VLCC-capable’ port, so we’ll hopefully see details on that in short order.

The proposal is immediately off to the major project office for consideration as a project of national interest, and quite obviously that approval will be forthcoming.

A good day for Canada for a lot of reasons.

Well said