Pipelines, energy and natural resources

[Czech_pivo]

And Tom Mulcair (former NDP leader and now CTV political pundit) weighs in

What’s the issue?
Provinces control resources so if they want to spend their money to build this, go ahead.

 

[lenaitch]

What’s the issue?
Provinces control resources so if they want to spend their money to build this, go ahead.

Except the federal government 'controls' the regulation of trade and commerce.

 

[Altair]

Except the federal government 'controls' the regulation of trade and commerce.

Sure, but as long as the province and feds are in agreement, this is probably the best way forward.

Feds agree, Province builds, industry benefits.

 

[MilEME09]

Sure, but as long as the province and feds are in agreement, this is probably the best way forward.

Feds agree, Province builds, industry benefits.

Exactly, we are getting LNG exports, a 1 million barrel per day pipeline for export to asia. This is all win win as the biggest O&G investment in a long time.

 

[YZT580]

A CTV video on pipelines

she said it: this is how we buy them off. Be interesting and expensive to see how much the first nations cost. B.C. for 10 billion so far

 

[Altair]

she said it: this is how we buy them off. Be interesting and expensive to see how much the first nations cost. B.C. for 10 billion so far

This is how confederation should work.

I remember saying during energy east pipeline talk about how the Feds should pump money into bombardier in exchange for Quebec dropping opposition to energy east.

The Feds under Trudeau did neither, and energy east died and bombardier gave up trying to do anything but business jets.

Compromise and quid pro quo is how to get people working together.

 

[brihard]

my reply has been supplanted by events. I like Eby's confirmation that his government will not be joining in on any court cases. Will the First Nations on the southern route back off as well? Last time I was in VR the harbour was packed solid so my next question is: Is there adequate room for more tankers? They are seriously big ships.

I’m waiting to see if the intended investment in expanding the Roberts Bank port in Delta will include an oil terminal. They can get oceangoing carriers there, it’s already a major container port and growing still larger. I can’t see the plan being simply to jam more AFRAMAX tankers into Burrard Inlet. If the intent here is Asian markets, that necessitates an ocean terminal.

We’ll hear more from Smith in a bit over an hour but it sounds like she’s happy. Eby’s commitment not to fight this in court is excellent.

 

[ArmyRick]

So we see some blah, blah, blah yay Team Canada cheering for PM MC and David Eby, and Eby celebrating the "oil tanker ban" staying in place to "protect the whales" (sure like the carbon tax saves the planet?)

I asked Google AI a question

"does the British Columbia tanker ban apply to foreign oil tankers that are passing through BC waters?"

Google AI answer

"No, the British Columbia oil tanker ban (officially known as the Oil Tanker Moratorium Act) does not ban foreign oil tankers from simply passing through Canadian waters. [1, 2, 3]"

Source listed in Department of Justice Canada.

So its ok for Trump's oil tankers to sail back and forth everyday only a few kilometers off the "tanker ban area" but damn! Canadian oil tanks shall not pass through!

I am asking for you all to stop being duped. Canada is not serious.

 

[brihard]

So we see some blah, blah, blah yay Team Canada cheering for PM MC and David Eby, and Eby celebrating the "oil tanker ban" staying in place to "protect the whales" (sure like the carbon tax saves the planet?)

I asked Google AI a question

"does the British Columbia tanker ban apply to foreign oil tankers that are passing through BC waters?"

Google AI answer

"No, the British Columbia oil tanker ban (officially known as the Oil Tanker Moratorium Act) does not ban foreign oil tankers from simply passing through Canadian waters. [1, 2, 3]"

Source listed in Department of Justice Canada.

So its ok for Trump's oil tankers to sail back and forth everyday only a few kilometers off the "tanker ban area" but damn! Canadian oil tanks shall not pass through!

I am asking for you all to stop being duped. Canada is not serious.

Sir, this is a Wendy’s.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Given how things are shaping up, just run another line mostly down the TMX and put its terminus at Cherry Point. BC'ers can stop bitching about tankers loading at BC ports. No need to duplicate a bunch of clearances and grease another set of palms. No need for any of the communities which might have gotten to wet their beaks in a northern route to torment themselves with dreams.

 

[ArmyRick]

Sir, this is a Wendy’s.

Pipelines, energy and natural resources​

Come again, smart ass?

 

[brihard]

Pipelines, energy and natural resources​

Come again, smart ass?

You’re whining and posting AI slop in response to some very solid economic news. There’s going to be a new west coast oil pipeline.

If you weren’t reliant on AI, you’d maybe be aware that offshore tanker traffic up there is minimal, because the Canadian federal moratorium is not the only provision in place.

Safe routing, reporting and restrictions for vessels

Information about safe routing and reporting for vessels.

tc.canada.ca

If you just want to rely on AI slop to shoot (inaccurately) from the hip on subjects of national interest, expect some of us to struggle to take your post seriously.

If anyone’s interested, the Smith/Carney speech appears about to start.

LIVE: Carney, Smith provide update on proposed oil pipeline

Prime Minister Mark Carney and Premier Daniele Smith discuss the energy infrastructure project.

www.ctvnews.ca

 

[Czech_pivo]

News conference just starting

 

[ArmyRick]

you’d maybe be aware that offshore tanker traffic up there is minimal, because the Canadian federal moratorium is not the only provision in place.

ANd you want to call my source AI slop even though it is originally sourced from Justice Canada, sure.

You don't like the news being told to you, deal with it.

And I don't give a damn if you think it is slop or not,
"Between 400 and 650 large oil tankers pass through or operate in British Columbia waters each year. This volume includes both domestic exports leaving Canadian ports and international foreign tankers traversing the Pacific coastline"

Here is the source

The State of Crude Oil Tanker Traffic in Canada – Clear Seas

Oil tankers are a persistent presence in Canada's coastal waters, yet their role in our nation's oil trade is often misunderstood.

clearseas.org

AI slop to shoot (inaccurately)

What was inaccurate in what I posed?

 

[Czech_pivo]

From what I’ve just heard, in a quick and dirty recap, Pembina Pipelines and TMX are building the pipeline and Danielle Smith said a new pipeline ‘of over a million barrels per day’.

 

[HavokFour]

From what I’ve just heard, in a quick and dirty recap, Pembina Pipelines and TMX are building the pipeline and Danielle Smith said a new pipeline ‘of over a million barrels per day’.

Alberta announces preferred new bitumen pipeline route to B.C. coast

Prime Minister Mark Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith announce a preferred route and interested parties for a new bitumen pipeline to the B.C. coast.

www.ctvnews.ca

BC will also be lending a hand in optimizing the existing Trans Mountain.

It said the capacity of that line will increase from 890,000 barrels per day to 1,190,000 barrels per day through “drag-reducing agents and mainline optimization.”

Ottawa will assist with B.C.’s capital costs and B.C. residents will also be entitled to “a fair share” of the economic benefits of the Trans Mountain optimization project.

 

[Altair]

Alberta announces preferred new bitumen pipeline route to B.C. coast

Prime Minister Mark Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith announce a preferred route and interested parties for a new bitumen pipeline to the B.C. coast.

www.ctvnews.ca

BC will also be lending a hand in optimizing the existing Trans Mountain.

Lets wait for the surreal moment where Carney is happy, Eby is happy, Smith is happy, and PP is unhappy.

 

[HavokFour]

Page is up on the Alberta website.

West coast pipeline, private partner, oilsands production and pathways

Alberta's government has submitted its application for the West Coast Oil Pipeline to the federal Major Projects Office for listing as a project of national interest.

www.alberta.ca

 

[brihard]

ANd you want to call my source AI slop even though it is originally sourced from Justice Canada, sure.

You don't like the news being told to you, deal with it.

And I don't give a damn if you think it is slop or not,
"Between 400 and 650 large oil tankers pass through or operate in British Columbia waters each year. This volume includes both domestic exports leaving Canadian ports and international foreign tankers traversing the Pacific coastline"

Here is the source

The State of Crude Oil Tanker Traffic in Canada – Clear Seas

Oil tankers are a persistent presence in Canada's coastal waters, yet their role in our nation's oil trade is often misunderstood.

clearseas.org

What was inaccurate in what I posed?

Precisely my point. You don’t even understand why the slop you post is slop nor do you appear curious enough to figure it out. You take what the AI feeds you and you go with itI literally already gave you part of the answer. I’m not going to waste my time educating you on it any further than I’ve already offered. You’ve chosen to dive wholeheartedly into getting spoon fed info by algorithms that struggle to hold or fill the spoon. Fill your boots.