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What’s the issue?
Provinces control resources so if they want to spend their money to build this, go ahead.
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Provinces control resources so if they want to spend their money to build this, go ahead.
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Except the federal government 'controls' the regulation of trade and commerce.
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Sure, but as long as the province and feds are in agreement, this is probably the best way forward.
Feds agree, Province builds, industry benefits.
MilEME09
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Exactly, we are getting LNG exports, a 1 million barrel per day pipeline for export to asia. This is all win win as the biggest O&G investment in a long time.
she said it: this is how we buy them off. Be interesting and expensive to see how much the first nations cost. B.C. for 10 billion so far
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This is how confederation should work.
I remember saying during energy east pipeline talk about how the Feds should pump money into bombardier in exchange for Quebec dropping opposition to energy east.
The Feds under Trudeau did neither, and energy east died and bombardier gave up trying to do anything but business jets.
Compromise and quid pro quo is how to get people working together.
I’m waiting to see if the intended investment in expanding the Roberts Bank port in Delta will include an oil terminal. They can get oceangoing carriers there, it’s already a major container port and growing still larger. I can’t see the plan being simply to jam more AFRAMAX tankers into Burrard Inlet. If the intent here is Asian markets, that necessitates an ocean terminal.
We’ll hear more from Smith in a bit over an hour but it sounds like she’s happy. Eby’s commitment not to fight this in court is excellent.
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So we see some blah, blah, blah yay Team Canada cheering for PM MC and David Eby, and Eby celebrating the "oil tanker ban" staying in place to "protect the whales" (sure like the carbon tax saves the planet?)
I asked Google AI a question
"does the British Columbia tanker ban apply to foreign oil tankers that are passing through BC waters?"
Google AI answer
"No, the British Columbia oil tanker ban (officially known as the Oil Tanker Moratorium Act) does not ban foreign oil tankers from simply passing through Canadian waters. [1, 2, 3]"
Source listed in Department of Justice Canada.
So its ok for Trump's oil tankers to sail back and forth everyday only a few kilometers off the "tanker ban area" but damn! Canadian oil tanks shall not pass through!
I am asking for you all to stop being duped. Canada is not serious.
I asked Google AI a question
"does the British Columbia tanker ban apply to foreign oil tankers that are passing through BC waters?"
Google AI answer
"No, the British Columbia oil tanker ban (officially known as the Oil Tanker Moratorium Act) does not ban foreign oil tankers from simply passing through Canadian waters. [1, 2, 3]"
Source listed in Department of Justice Canada.
So its ok for Trump's oil tankers to sail back and forth everyday only a few kilometers off the "tanker ban area" but damn! Canadian oil tanks shall not pass through!
I am asking for you all to stop being duped. Canada is not serious.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
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Given how things are shaping up, just run another line mostly down the TMX and put its terminus at Cherry Point. BC'ers can stop bitching about tankers loading at BC ports. No need to duplicate a bunch of clearances and grease another set of palms. No need for any of the communities which might have gotten to wet their beaks in a northern route to torment themselves with dreams.
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You’re whining and posting AI slop in response to some very solid economic news. There’s going to be a new west coast oil pipeline.
If you weren’t reliant on AI, you’d maybe be aware that offshore tanker traffic up there is minimal, because the Canadian federal moratorium is not the only provision in place.
Safe routing, reporting and restrictions for vessels
Information about safe routing and reporting for vessels.
If you just want to rely on AI slop to shoot (inaccurately) from the hip on subjects of national interest, expect some of us to struggle to take your post seriously.
If anyone’s interested, the Smith/Carney speech appears about to start.
LIVE: Carney, Smith provide update on proposed oil pipeline
Prime Minister Mark Carney and Premier Daniele Smith discuss the energy infrastructure project.
www.ctvnews.ca
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News conference just starting
ArmyRick
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ANd you want to call my source AI slop even though it is originally sourced from Justice Canada, sure.
You don't like the news being told to you, deal with it.
And I don't give a damn if you think it is slop or not,
"Between 400 and 650 large oil tankers pass through or operate in British Columbia waters each year. This volume includes both domestic exports leaving Canadian ports and international foreign tankers traversing the Pacific coastline"
Here is the source
The State of Crude Oil Tanker Traffic in Canada – Clear Seas
Oil tankers are a persistent presence in Canada's coastal waters, yet their role in our nation's oil trade is often misunderstood.
clearseas.org
What was inaccurate in what I posed?
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From what I’ve just heard, in a quick and dirty recap, Pembina Pipelines and TMX are building the pipeline and Danielle Smith said a new pipeline ‘of over a million barrels per day’.
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Alberta announces preferred new bitumen pipeline route to B.C. coast
Prime Minister Mark Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith announce a preferred route and interested parties for a new bitumen pipeline to the B.C. coast.
www.ctvnews.ca
BC will also be lending a hand in optimizing the existing Trans Mountain.
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Lets wait for the surreal moment where Carney is happy, Eby is happy, Smith is happy, and PP is unhappy.Alberta announces preferred new bitumen pipeline route to B.C. coast
Prime Minister Mark Carney and Alberta Premier Danielle Smith announce a preferred route and interested parties for a new bitumen pipeline to the B.C. coast.
BC will also be lending a hand in optimizing the existing Trans Mountain.
HavokFour
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Page is up on the Alberta website.
www.alberta.ca
West coast pipeline, private partner, oilsands production and pathways
Alberta's government has submitted its application for the West Coast Oil Pipeline to the federal Major Projects Office for listing as a project of national interest.
www.alberta.ca
Precisely my point. You don’t even understand why the slop you post is slop nor do you appear curious enough to figure it out. You take what the AI feeds you and you go with it. I literally already gave you part of the answer. I’m not going to waste my time educating you on it any further than I’ve already offered. You’ve chosen to dive wholeheartedly into getting spoon fed info by algorithms that struggle to hold or fill the spoon. Fill your boots.ANd you want to call my source AI slop even though it is originally sourced from Justice Canada, sure.
You don't like the news being told to you, deal with it.
And I don't give a damn if you think it is slop or not,
"Between 400 and 650 large oil tankers pass through or operate in British Columbia waters each year. This volume includes both domestic exports leaving Canadian ports and international foreign tankers traversing the Pacific coastline"
Here is the source
The State of Crude Oil Tanker Traffic in Canada – Clear Seas
Oil tankers are a persistent presence in Canada's coastal waters, yet their role in our nation's oil trade is often misunderstood.
What was inaccurate in what I posed?
I think the best and most important part of this is the private partner was already in place. I commented either earlier today or yesterday about the governmental involvement helping to de-risk this, and they appears to be exactly what took place- just faster than I realized. PM Carney spoke specifically to the government’s role in this as a catalyst and as helping to remove the fear of that risk.
This is a good thing. We will get another pipeline to pacific tidewater. Premier Smith spoke about a ‘VLCC-capable’ port, so we’ll hopefully see details on that in short order.
The proposal is immediately off to the major project office for consideration as a project of national interest, and quite obviously that approval will be forthcoming.
A good day for Canada for a lot of reasons.
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