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Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

Convince me in less than 6-8 sentences as to why Canada should continue to have an upper governmental body?

Go!
 
No strategic error that has been made at the federal level over the past 50 years has been greater than Pierre Poilievre demolishing Jagmeet Singh and the NDP.

If Canada becomes a two party (plus the BQ) political system, I don't know what the CPC does.
Absorbs the right side of the LPC after the LPC is dragged left by the remnants of the other parties. Pretty much the same thing observed in the US.
 
Supposedly StatsCan is following this guideline.

"The 15 to 24 age range used by Statistics Canada is the global standard set by the International Labour Organization (ILO) to specifically measure the transition of individuals from full-time education into the workforce."

"However, because the 15-24 bracket lumps together high-schoolers looking for part-time work with university graduates starting their careers, economists often break it down further (e.g., separating 15-19 from 20-24) to get a clearer picture of the job market"

The range of 15-19 and 20-24 is alot more logical and its a break (especially under the old 'Grade 13 era') of those in high school and those out of high school.


StatCan said youth aged 15 to 24 added 33,000 jobs in June, mostly in part-time work. Workers aged 25 to 54 saw similar gains while older members of the labour market faced losses.

The unemployment rate for returning students -- those planning to head back to school in the fall -- was 15.3 per cent in June, 2.1 percentage points lower than the same month a year ago. This was still higher than the pre-pandemic average of 13 per cent.

The agency noted however that job prospects varied widely within this age group.

Returning students aged 20 to 24 saw an unemployment rate of 8.2 per cent in June, while those aged 17 to 19 faced a jobless rate of 16.5 per cent. Teens aged 15 or 16 recorded an unemployment rate of 30.6 per cent in June as they searched for work in the waning days of the school year.

It really seems that the 'right' people are reading our forums.......
 

StatCan said youth aged 15 to 24 added 33,000 jobs in June, mostly in part-time work. Workers aged 25 to 54 saw similar gains while older members of the labour market faced losses.

The unemployment rate for returning students -- those planning to head back to school in the fall -- was 15.3 per cent in June, 2.1 percentage points lower than the same month a year ago. This was still higher than the pre-pandemic average of 13 per cent.

The agency noted however that job prospects varied widely within this age group.

Returning students aged 20 to 24 saw an unemployment rate of 8.2 per cent in June, while those aged 17 to 19 faced a jobless rate of 16.5 per cent. Teens aged 15 or 16 recorded an unemployment rate of 30.6 per cent in June as they searched for work in the waning days of the school year.

It really seems that the 'right' people are reading our forums.......
Typical summer job boom, not surprised about the 15/16 stat. The rules for hiring youth under 16 are strict in many provinces which makes employers unwilling to hire them
 

StatCan said youth aged 15 to 24 added 33,000 jobs in June, mostly in part-time work. Workers aged 25 to 54 saw similar gains while older members of the labour market faced losses.

The unemployment rate for returning students -- those planning to head back to school in the fall -- was 15.3 per cent in June, 2.1 percentage points lower than the same month a year ago. This was still higher than the pre-pandemic average of 13 per cent.

The agency noted however that job prospects varied widely within this age group.

Returning students aged 20 to 24 saw an unemployment rate of 8.2 per cent in June, while those aged 17 to 19 faced a jobless rate of 16.5 per cent. Teens aged 15 or 16 recorded an unemployment rate of 30.6 per cent in June as they searched for work in the waning days of the school year.

It really seems that the 'right' people are reading our forums.......
What's interesting is that the unemployment rate seems to 'halve' when moving from one age sub-bracket to the next.

Age 15-16 - 30.6% unemployment
Age 17-19 - 16.5% unemployment
Age 22-24 - 8.2% unemployment
 
The Canadian Senate is apparently the Class A Army Reserve of the government: a job where you only show up if you feel like it, and the potential sanctions are minunal and rarely enforced.

If you've ever been to any provincial or federal government secession they are mostly empty. Cameras are strategically placed to make it look like more are there than really are there.

I was at a secession in Victoria where there was 6 total out of the 93 MPPs.

This isn’t just a senate problem, this is a Canadian government problem.
 
Convince me in less than 6-8 sentences as to why Canada should continue to have an upper governmental body?

Go!
The senate in its current form is ineffective, but in theory an elected senate being regionally representative rather than representation by population would constrain the ability of the larger provinces to drive the ship. I believe there are several on this site that bemoan Ontario’s ability to run the country for its benefit and an effective upper house would counterbalance that.
 
The senate in its current form is ineffective, but in theory an elected senate being regionally representative rather than representation by population would constrain the ability of the larger provinces to drive the ship. I believe there are several on this site that bemoan Ontario’s ability to run the country for its benefit and an effective upper house would counterbalance that.
Is your proposal one similar to the US, where each state has 2 Senators, regardless of its population? This would only continue to benefit those provinces, such as PEI, that already is 'over-represented' in the H of C. Others, NB, NS and NL possibly could be in similar situations.

If the upper chamber is going to continue to be a toothless tiger, then I'd rather follow New Zealand, Sweden, Denmark and such that have abolished their upper chambers.
 
Is your proposal one similar to the US, where each state has 2 Senators, regardless of its population? This would only continue to benefit those provinces, such as PEI, that already is 'over-represented' in the H of C. Others, NB, NS and NL possibly could be in similar situations.

If the upper chamber is going to continue to be a toothless tiger, then I'd rather follow New Zealand, Sweden, Denmark and such that have abolished their upper chambers.
Giving PEI two senators would be a 50% reduction. And since no province can have fewer seats in the HoC than the Senate, it would also cut their HoC representation in half.

TL;DR don't threaten me with a good time.
 
Giving PEI two senators would be a 50% reduction. And since no province can have fewer seats in the HoC than the Senate, it would also cut their HoC representation in half.

TL;DR don't threaten me with a good time.
And somehow NB and NS each have 10
 
Giving PEI two senators would be a 50% reduction. And since no province can have fewer seats in the HoC than the Senate, it would also cut their HoC representation in half.

TL;DR don't threaten me with a good time.

Really NB, NS and PEI should be force amalgamated into one province.

Having these little 3, little, poor as shit Atlantic fiefdoms is just silly.
 
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