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Liberal (Minority/Majority) Government 2025 - ???

Its just demographics...
For certain that's playing the long game.

The push (at least in Ontario), is to keep seniors in their home, 'independent' for as long as possible. I've had neighbours (the original owners of the house when it was built in the mid-1960's) on my street staying in the home until they died in the mid-90s. I've probably got, just on my block, 4 sets of neighbours in their 80s and another 5 sets in their 70s, and another 6 in their 60s. Under the age of say 35, 3 sets and 1 of them are the only renters on the block and have no kids, the other 2 sets have 3 kids under the age of 3 and 1 set is expecting their 2nd kids.
 
Adding on to this...


Cost of living needs to be addressed before this get out of hand.
The longer the time from recent memory of Communism under the Soviets and the subjugation of central/eastern Europe and pre-Deng Xiaoping Communist China, the appealing that sort of 'socialism' and 'controlled government planning' becomes to the youth.
 
Adding on to this...


Cost of living needs to be addressed before this get out of hand.
Unlimited growth is an inherently irrational concept on a planet with finite resources. Thats the inherent flaw of modern capitalism and part of what's driving the youth to be highly critical of it. Something is going to give, Im hoping its the top 5-10% recognizing they need to do more for the commons like their predecessors did around 100 years ago. Based off what Im seeing thats unlikely so the young and desperate will probably get more radical and violent over the next generation.

Sometimes you need to give a little socialism so the people dont demand a lot of communism. Even arch-conservatives like Bismarck understood this.
 
The longer the time from recent memory of Communism under the Soviets and the subjugation of central/eastern Europe and pre-Deng Xiaoping Communist China, the appealing that sort of 'socialism' and 'controlled government planning' becomes to the youth.

I think youre letting the continued subversion of country and its systems off the hook to easy.

While there is passive growth I am sure, there is also active work going on.
 
The longer the time from recent memory of Communism under the Soviets and the subjugation of central/eastern Europe and pre-Deng Xiaoping Communist China, the appealing that sort of 'socialism' and 'controlled government planning' becomes to the youth.
not to mention their trolling of the internet, false news, and the Robin Hood steal from the rich mentality that it fosters
 
Why the insistence on single detached housing?
because that is conducive to family development.
I think it is a stretch to say our societal want for single detached housing is important for family development.
We don't want to live in apartments or row houses, but we are not being honest with ourselves if we start espousing that the detached home is some necessity (or near necessity) for healthy families.
 
Ecuador being added to the list of countries we have free trade with today.


[Reuters]Ecuador says Canada trade deal to make 99.6% of exports tariff-free


The agreement covers trade in goods and services, investment, e-commerce, labor, environmental issues, Indigenous peoples and dispute resolution.

• More than 600 Ecuadorian products will gain tariff-free access, including bananas, ‌cacao, ⁠shrimp, tropical fruits and vegetables.
• The deal gives preferential access to sectors including flowers, tuna preparations, ⁠textiles, footwear and cosmetics.
• It excludes or protects 227 sensitive agricultural products, ⁠including rice, corn, milk, meat and sugar.
• Ecuador said ⁠the deal matches terms already achieved by regional competitors Colombia and Peru.
 
I think it is a stretch to say our societal want for single detached housing is important for family development.
We don't want to live in apartments or row houses, but we are not being honest with ourselves if we start espousing that the detached home is some necessity (or near necessity) for healthy families.
not entirely but row houses with a decent rear yard would certainly help. Town houses here have enough space for a BBQ, a 4 ft. round table and 4 chairs and that is about all. When you couple that with parkettes instead of parks or green spaces for kids to play and your kids end up inside with their smart phones ' cause there is no play space available to speak of.
 
I think it is a stretch to say our societal want for single detached housing is important for family development.
We don't want to live in apartments or row houses, but we are not being honest with ourselves if we start espousing that the detached home is some necessity (or near necessity) for healthy families.
I dunno.

The more space my wife has the more she wants to fill it with either children or dogs.

Thankfully I like dogs.
 

If there was ever a time to put our collective elbows up, it should have been over a bridge named after Gordie Howe. Instead, we appear to have capitulated to a glorified extortion racket from the Trump administration, one that will have Canada handing over revenues equivalent to half the toll bridge’s net revenues for a period of 15 years. On the trade front, it seems like the concessions will have to continue until morale improves.

I understand the broader strategy at work here, and I’m willing to bet many Canadians do as well. In the face of a volatile and vainglorious bully who’s constitutionally incapable of keeping his word, the prime minister is playing for time — ragging the puck, to stick to the Howe metaphors — and using it to expand our trade relationships and diversify our export flows. If the cost of that time is a combination of symbolic concessions, conspicuous flattery and the occasional act of strategic self-debasement, Carney seems willing to pay it.

Case in point: a recent Abacus Data poll that asked people why they thought Carney backed — and continues to back — American war against Iran. A mere 14 per cent thought it was because that's how he actually felt, while 69 per cent believed it was motivated to some extent by a need to "maintain a good relationship with President Trump and protect Canada's trade interests. As fellow pollster Éric Grenier said on the latest episode of The Numbers podcast, "It does suggest that Canadians understand this game he has to play."

In order to win that game, though, he has to convince Canadians to let him keep playing it.
The Gordie Howe Bridge episode, and specifically the prime minister’s apparent misrepresentation of the terms of the deal to open it, risks costing some of the trust that Canadians have given him — and shortening the considerable leeway they’ve granted his government so far in dealing with the Americans. It's one thing, after all, to bullshit President Trump, and another thing entirely to try that with the Canadian public.

Sure, the financial math here could eventually work out in Canada’s favour due to some complex calculations around interest rate spreads and imputed debt servicing costs that are beyond the capacity of most Canadians. But the political math is much less complicated — and much less favourable for the government. The deal to open the Gordie Howe Bridge represents another bent knee from a government that promised Canadians it would stand firm against the Trump administration when it was re-elected just over a year ago. The Carney government’s decision to spin Canadians on its impact rather than admitting the obvious — that we got bullied here, again — only makes the potential political damage worse.

If there’s saving grace for the prime minister here, other than this all happening at a moment where most Canadians are more focused on their summer plans (and the potential intrusion of wildfire smoke onto them), it’s that his Conservative opponents are handling the situation even more poorly.
Yes, they’ve pressed him to release the details of the deal, and accused him of being dishonest with Canadians about it. That part will resonate with voters.

What won’t is their overarching belief that the best way forward with the United States isn’t by fighting back but rather surrendering more aggressively. They have consistently pushed the prime minister to strike a deal with the Trump administration, even in the face of the increasingly obvious reality — one underscored by the whole Gordie Howe Bridge fiasco — that Trump does not consider himself bound in any way by mere technicalities like “contracts” and “signatures.” It’s not a coincidence that Danielle Smith and Scott Moe, the two premiers most closely aligned with Pierre Poilievre, want no part of any retaliatory measures — and Doug Ford, the Conservative premier most at odds with him, clearly does.

The constellation of right-wing online influencers who flocked to Pierre Poilievre’s leadership, and who Poilievre has in turn tended to like his personal hothouse flowers, are even more strident in their pro-America and pro-Trump posturing. Their almost reflexive desire to blame Canada for any affront or insult delivered by the Trump administration might get them clicks and engagement, but it won’t win over any of the voters Poilievre’s party actually needs to win an election. As columnist Jen Gerson said on social media,
“the fact that Conservatives continue to stand with the 25 per cent of voters who are convinced that America is acting in good faith is an interesting tactical decision.”
Bring back Davos Carney.


 
not entirely but row houses with a decent rear yard would certainly help. Town houses here have enough space for a BBQ, a 4 ft. round table and 4 chairs and that is about all. When you couple that with parkettes instead of parks or green spaces for kids to play and your kids end up inside with their smart phones ' cause there is no play space available to speak of.

Quite a bit of the country has that "missing middle" issue. Ottawa has a absolute crapload of it going up now. You should see the amount of low-rise going up in Orleans for example, and quite a few of them feature a large park space in the middle of them. A nice change from the years and years of single homes contributing to the sprawl problem.
 
The longer the time from recent memory of Communism under the Soviets and the subjugation of central/eastern Europe and pre-Deng Xiaoping Communist China, the appealing that sort of 'socialism' and 'controlled government planning' becomes to the youth.

So many also think socialism = Scandinavian welfare states. If you read the DSA policies, they are much closer to Mao than Palme.
 
Quite a bit of the country has that "missing middle" issue. Ottawa has a absolute crapload of it going up now. You should see the amount of low-rise going up in Orleans for example, and quite a few of them feature a large park space in the middle of them. A nice change from the years and years of single homes contributing to the sprawl problem.
They are fortunate. Google Milton and count up the number of homes with no yards per park and they are located like one per 4 blocks or more. Or maybe Burlington up by Headon Road. sure there are parks but there are a lot of streets for kids to cross to get to them and several blocks of homes per park. No neighbourhoods just fancy dormitories. There aren't a lot of areas available to have a block party for instance.
 
Unlimited growth is an inherently irrational concept on a planet with finite resources. Thats the inherent flaw of modern capitalism and part of what's driving the youth to be highly critical of it. Something is going to give, Im hoping its the top 5-10% recognizing they need to do more for the commons like their predecessors did around 100 years ago. Based off what Im seeing thats unlikely so the young and desperate will probably get more radical and violent over the next generation.

Sometimes you need to give a little socialism so the people dont demand a lot of communism. Even arch-conservatives like Bismarck understood this.
Capitalism never made things better for the workers/lower class, only the fear of them uprising did.
I think youre letting the continued subversion of country and its systems off the hook to easy.

While there is passive growth I am sure, there is also active work going on.
Some active subversion, some just realizing the system is rigged against you unless you have the money to play it.
 
What you’re saying is NO different than any government this country has had for the last 50-80+yrs
True, but the current young generations have been raised on a bombardment of social media, citizen journalism and outright information manipulation, and an absence of global conflict - even the cold kind. Previous generations lived through both. If they immigrated, they might have come from a place where they experienced non-democracy first hand, and the news came formally on radio, TV or print, a few times per day.

An issue to remedy the housing question is to remove the existing legislature around density and protecting existing farmland around our urban centers. Housing is about availability of land for development. The moment the 'Greenbelt' was created around the GTA is defined the availability of land for housing - inside the belt vs outside the belt. I know that the GTA is not all of Canada but I'm pretty certain all provinces have similar legislation. Open up existing farmland to housing development carte blanche and housing prices for new homes will drop accordingly. A parcel of 100 acres of farmland in the GTA, inside the Greenbelt, that could be developed for housing, would currently sell for around 7-10$ million. Farms outside the Greenbelt currently cannot be sold for housing development - Learn - Greenbelt Foundation - EDIT - Maps - Greenbelt Foundation - The 'Greenbelt' clearly defines the land that can be developed vs the land that cannot be developed in the GTA. Less land available means scarcity and scarcity means higher prices, simple economics.

In the US urban sprawl is the 'norm' (look at Atlanta, Raleigh, Dallas, Houston, Detroit, Chicago). Suburbs spring up further and further from the city boundaries because of the availability of cheap land for development. People live with well water and septic systems for decades, well after the semi-rural suburb has been swallowed up into the newly created urban areas.

Inside alot of the older parts of the existing cities found within the GTA, there is no land left to build on - its either tear down existing houses to build newer and much bigger houses on or utilizing 'brown fields' within the city and building very dense houses on. So, young people wanting to live in those cities (Burlington, Oakville out where I am) have to either compromise and live in a condo, in newly created 'brownfield' condos, buy a small older home that requires alot of TLC (hopefully outbidding a developer looking to tear the house down and build bigger) or look elsewhere. In cities such as these its very much 'location, location, location' and there is NOTHING a government can do to change what the market will pay for 'location'.

Milton is a perfect example of a city in the 'Greenbelt' in the GTA that was identified as a 'growth center'. When we were looking to buy our first house in 2003 (moving from midtown Toronto - St Clair and Bathurst area) we looked in the Campbellville area, located just west of the then town of Milton. Our real estate agent showed us 2-3 places within Campbellville and then drove us about 15 min east to the areas on the east side of Milton where farm after farm was being destroyed and massive new subdivision were being created and said 'this is the future of this area, are you sure you what to live around this since its done?". We choose to buy north of Georgetown on the Niagara Escarpment in a protected area from new suburb development.

In 2001 Milton was a town of about 30k and had barely changed in size for decades because the entire town was on 'well water', meaning the town obtained its potable water from wells that supplied the entire town, thus limiting its growth to only that which the wells could support. Around 2002-3, the far eastern end of the town tapped into newly created water mains from the west end of Mississauga and BOOM - massive scale growth occurred. By 2011 Milton had a population of 84k people and rampant growth continued. By 2021 Milton was sitting at over 130k people. The 'town' had added 100k in 20yrs.

I think that I've mentioned before that my wife is a Speech Pathologist. She used to work in Adult Rehab (think stroke patients or traumatic brain injuries) but she's now worked in the Halton school board for the last 15yrs. She has colleagues who work in the Milton schools, (all part of Halton Region, which covers Burlington, Oakville, Milton and Georgetown/Acton), who service public schools that have 30!!! kindergartens in a SINGLE school because of the growth. How do you build for that type of growth? What type of infrastructure do you put in place for the short term, medium term and long term? What I mean by that is, a school, all schools, typically has a school population that 'ebbs and grows' based on the population that lives immediately around its borders. So, taking the example of a single school having 30 kindergartens located within it, as the population around the school ages, the number of children feeding into the kindergarten programme will begin to dramatically fall off. In 5yrs it might be down to 18 kindergarten classes and in 10yrs it could be down to 3 kindergarten classes. So, how much money is needed to be constantly changing the internal layout of that school - a classroom layout for 4yr old's is much different than a class for 12yr old's. Is there a need to remove (scrap?) playground equipment that was geared towards 4-7yrs old when the school had 30 kindergartens vs having 3 kindergartens? Where do the 27 kindergarten teachers all go? Can they be re-assigned to older grades? What about the ECE's (Early Childhood Educators) assigned to assist the kindergarten teachers in each of classrooms, where do they all go? Pulling on this thread even more, what do you do 30-40yrs down the road when the population has matured, there is substantially fewer children in the area around these schools and the 'utilization' rate of the school has fallen below 60%? Do you do what alot of these school boards do and sell off the land to developers and have the school becomes a new mini subdivision?

If the younger generation wants to live in a single detached home, then they will have to be wiling to allow for greater urban sprawl, less farmland and less protected green spaces available around their cities.
it might help housing but imperils productive farmland, groundwater, etc. Low density sprawl is expensive to maintain since publicly-funded infrastructure serves fewer people per kilometer.

If people are insistent, or are compelled to by employment, to life in cities, they need to accept higher density, and cities need to make themselves as livable as possible.
 
Speaking of work... Working from home and remote work should be offered everywhere possible, IMHO.
Sadly it doesn't work as it should and not always because people are milking the system although that is prevalent as well. Families grade school children at home for the summer are constantly distracted unless the kids are in full time camp or some other 'away from home' facility. Yet it is hard to budget 500 or more extra per week to take advantage of these opportunities and quite frankly, they don't exist in the numbers that would be required. Perhaps if the old concept of a neighbourhood still existed kids would have the capability to entertain themselves outside as was the case up until the 80's at a guess. And then there are the ones who take their laptops to the beach or justify a quick outing. Some surveys say it is less prevalent than one might think and there are definitely those who work well for the company regardless.
 
Sadly it doesn't work as it should and not always because people are milking the system although that is prevalent as well. Families grade school children at home for the summer are constantly distracted unless the kids are in full time camp or some other 'away from home' facility. Yet it is hard to budget 500 or more extra per week to take advantage of these opportunities and quite frankly, they don't exist in the numbers that would be required. Perhaps if the old concept of a neighbourhood still existed kids would have the capability to entertain themselves outside as was the case up until the 80's at a guess. And then there are the ones who take their laptops to the beach or justify a quick outing. Some surveys say it is less prevalent than one might think and there are definitely those who work well for the company regardless.

What is milking the system ? If someone isn't being production and that performance/behavior isn't corrected that's either a failure of leadership/management or cause for dismissal. I view the manager who allows this behavior/performance to continue as milking the system. You're paid to manage, so manage of move on.

If you can be productive from the beach, home, park why not ?

We need to modernize the way we view work where possible. AI and robotics will replace almost all of our professions within a generation two max, we may as well prepare for a new reality.
 
Sadly it doesn't work as it should and not always because people are milking the system although that is prevalent as well. Families grade school children at home for the summer are constantly distracted unless the kids are in full time camp or some other 'away from home' facility. Yet it is hard to budget 500 or more extra per week to take advantage of these opportunities and quite frankly, they don't exist in the numbers that would be required. Perhaps if the old concept of a neighbourhood still existed kids would have the capability to entertain themselves outside as was the case up until the 80's at a guess. And then there are the ones who take their laptops to the beach or justify a quick outing. Some surveys say it is less prevalent than one might think and there are definitely those who work well for the company regardless.
There are many ways to ensure that an individual who is home based is pulling their load.
Failure to meet timelines/deliverables/attend meetings/meet productivity norms should all trigger status meetings with their managers where feedback on not meeting expectations are delivered. Continued failures should result in return to office fulltime mandates and as a last result, termination.
 
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