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These aren't even remotely similar situations.

I thought removing those phrases made my Steelman attempt more honest. Pointing out that I thought of including them shouldnt detract from my post; actually believing what you wrote isn't a prerequisite of steelmanning.

To be fair to you and other, while I don't believe what I wrote in that post is the truth, I recognize that it COULD be the truth, or at least the truth could be in that direction. We're basically slaves to whatever each of our media sources are telling us, and the info sphere has gotten really...

I originally had phrases like "Democrat controlled liberal media apparatus propaganda" strewn throughout but thought it was too on the nose.

Or it’s possible that much of this collective outrage is being manufactured, driven less by facts on the ground and more by sustained media framing designed to provoke it. ICE officers, for the most part, are enforcing laws that already exist, addressing an immigration system that many would...

To be fair, you don't technically NEED an improved search radar to designate targets: you could settle for operators designating targets manually through the camera and joystick (SLAVE MAN).

Man, if this shooting has you feeling a little awful, then do NOT go into the r/conservative subreddit and read their responses/take on this event. It won't be good for your mental health...

Does he say in the video that it's to counter ICE? I don't think it even COULD work that way. More likely he's deploying the national guard because he foresees the people devolving into complete pandemonium and lawlessness over this.

I'm literally the only one staying on point!

Agreed. It should be easier to prevent bad, but more importantly dangerous, people from driving.

I agrees with the underlying point you are trying to make. Trying to ban semi-autos and take them away from lawful gun owners makes about as much sense as banning pickup trucks. But, along the same lines as my current argument and using your metaphor: a person with a pickup truck is more...

This brings me hope.

No. That conflates the debate and brings in whatever Trudeau said. This is still just the argument over whether a tube fed bolt action 22LR is the same level of dangerous/deadly as a higher calibre semi-automatic.

A perp that is destructive and offensive can do a lot more damage with an AR-15 or an F150 then they could do with a hammer. I can hide in a closet and lock the door and keep my self safe from the hammer, I can't keep myself safe in a closet from the AR-15. I'm sure the kids at Columbine would...

No, if someone goes postal and runs into a crowded McDonalds with the goal to kill as many people as possible, they are going to be far more deadly with a pump shotgun then with a shovel. Don't be rediculous. Same for law enforcement. If the police get a call about a highly deranged and...

Why is it laughable? I could have said the BAR-10, REC-10, MR308, M14, etc.. why was choosing AR10 laughable? Also, how does my assertion that these rifles are more potentially dangerous mean that I'm anti you? I didn't even say that I'm "anti these guns"; I just think they have greater...

They would also be more deadly/dangerous than a bolt action, tube fed 22. Worse than an AR-10 or an SKS? It would probably depend on the situation.

And just what technical details did I get wrong?

Once again, my point is being conflated. I did not say that long guns, and more specifically semi auto long guns, were the main source of gun deaths in Canada. All I said, and nothing more, was that a person with a semi-auto rifle, and especially a high calibre semi-auto rifle, has the...

Yes they are. Take some disgruntled young adult who's got an infatuation with mass killings and a beef with the world. He can do a lot more damage and keep LE at bay more effectively with an AR-10 than he could we a Cooey.