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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    Main issue with the NRWS was the forward mount EOIR were failing at a high rate. The Aft mounts were quite good and accurate (scary accurate actually, amazing what gyro stabilization does). They suspect it was main gun shockwave that was causing the problem. There are various solutions. But...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    Log operates the forklifts, Deck the cranes (with CSE also qualified). CSE responsible for ammo, MSE for fuel/water and Log is responsible for everything else. Log can store ship for an entire task group entirely without anyone else's help but Deck on the sideshell cranes, in a single (long)...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    Yes. The freezers are huge, the fridges are massive. You load the food into the spaces using pallet jacks and forklifts (to give you an idea of the size). The food is stored in metal cages specifically designed to fit onto rails in the floor and stack on top of each other. You then secure...
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    Continental Defence Corvette

    Noah's reporting today the CDC is likely a mid term project. The focus is on RCD, JSS, Subs, and FAAST-V in the near term. RCN in the next 5 years is going to have a lot to chew on without adding CDC to the mix.
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    Continental Defence Corvette

    That iron is supposedly in all the rings P.Eng's get across Canada. We of course learn that history in order to get that ring. But that was the 1907 collapse. The same bridge also collapsed in 1916 again, and this time killed 13 of the workers. That was due to failed inspections being...
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    Continental Defence Corvette

    Quebec has a wonderful (/sarcastic) history of civil engineering failures, particularly on bridges. Their disasters led to the creation of the Canadian Professional Engineering Accreditation process, possibly the best in the world. Certainly well recognized and respected.
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    I'll argue that whatever they are going to deliver for RCD will be better than Navantia.
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    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    Length is a bit longer (2ish meters) and beam was about 0.5m wider.
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    Don't believe the Spanish glossy brochure. Just look at Australia's experience with Navantia. The spanish ships are like new build house from a sketchy contractor. No primer under the paint, and shortcuts everywhere. Our problem isn't this BS friends and family narrative you're pushing. Its...
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    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    The Rivers were to replace all the capabilities inherent in the tribals and frigates. 9 is the minimum be able to retire the frigates. After that either keep building Rivers or switch to a new class. We're 10 years away from even having that conversation.
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    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    9 is the minimum build for Rivers. That's what we need to retire the HFX class. Destroyer Escort = Frigate, they are synonyms as all DE's were eventually rolled into Frigate classification when NATO's new classification system came out. Castor class is interesting. Good shout! My...
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    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    Rumour mill has CDC scope changing. Also that we'll find out in the new Fall Defence Policy.
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    German sub industry exports indicate otherwise. 50+ 209's exported (to Korea), 214's exported, 212's exported. It's far more likely given that industry's history that things will go fairly well. German surface fleet production vs German sub fleet production are different. For clarity some of...
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    Can they? Are you sure? You know the depth and sailing conditions underwater for those routes? Also does it matter that the Russians can get submarines waaaay up north to the wasteland part of the arctic? Russian subs (attack subs) need to attack shipping and interdict transit routes for...
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    If you do a bit of research you'll find a number of subs systems are not kept within the hull. The 212CD in particular has a number of tanks, sonars and other equipment outside the pressure hull but inside the stealthy shaped hull.
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    I think its going to entirely be contract, build schedules and GERNOR giving us some of their current build sched ships. These aren't the folks who talk about upgrades and such, this is the business, lawyer and diplomat crowd.
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    The Emerging CAF Deep Sense-Strike Complex

    I msg'd him about some of his arbitrary choices. Pointed out that a lot of the weapons listed on there are not Deep Strike ones (like Direct Fire AT weapons or short range mortars etc...). Not sure where the line is but I would argue if it doesn't go beyond 25nm (horizon at sea, approx 40km)...
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    Continental Defence Corvette

    That makes sense. It will be well into Seapan's CCG build cycle.
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    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    So they are choosing to never get promoted. Unless Log is waiving that requirement now for Sea Log. Well that's a thing I guess.
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    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    The wet and dry list has existed since I joined, it was always unofficial and informal, though recognized by leadership out loud eventually (2007 approx). Now its formalized in a different way. You can join the Staff officer stream at any point in time in the new org . And as far as "never...
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