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    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    The wet and dry list has existed since I joined, it was always unofficial and informal, though recognized by leadership out loud eventually (2007 approx). Now its formalized in a different way. You can join the Staff officer stream at any point in time in the new org . And as far as "never...
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    The Arctic

    And yet you didn't list the 3rd busiest port in Canada on that list. Prince Rupert. Vancouver, Montreal, Prince Rupert, Halifax, Saint John in that order. If Churchill approaches Hamilton's volume that will be a win...
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    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    Still need to get that, Baby Log and Log O tour. Its been like that for decades. What's changed?
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    Continental Defence Corvette

    OK lets all take a breath here. Rheinmetall just this year... in March... entered the naval shipbuilding market with the purchase of NVL (Naval Vessels Lursen). You'll note then that this is their first ever ship design in the new company. So what's the motivation here? Marketing plain and...
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    New Canadian Shipbuilding Strategy

    They are producing NWO's at a record rate right now. However they changed all the training to do so. You're OFP when you finish your MARS 4 or whatever its called. Matching all the other trades in the CAF. And they've significantly streamlined the post BWK process. No more NOPQ boards...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    We always look at NATO. Take a look at Australia, Japan and Korea for other comparables. Then you need to compare what the "frigates" actually are for capability. Some are short range national water types of ships. Australia is a good comparable, however their requirements have them...
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    Arctic is shallow. Finding an anchoring area where dynamic positioning is irrelevant works. Ideally that's better than dynamic. 4 is the correct answer. 6 is too many given current expected fleet numbers and mission sets. If Canada had significant overseas responsibilities then 6 would be...
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    Mine hunters are not really an issue. With ships taken up from trade launching UUV's to search for and take out mines. If you can build a lot of minehunting UUV's then the rest is pretty easy.
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    Status on Victoria-class Submarines?

    This is super cool news. This is perfect timing given the new sub announcement.
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    I honestly think that once we get going with JSS we're going to unlock a lot of submarine support options we didn't know were available. We'll have to see. If its a choice between fleet./sub tenders and two more JSS its gotta be two more JSS. That would round out the fleet quite well even if...
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    You are overthinking things. Submarines are not going to be "assigned" to any particular region aside from the coast they are ported in. Their deployments will depend on any number of eventualities and changes. Ships/boats by their very nature are flexible. The current use case is as I...
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    These will never ever be public knowledge. Submarine deployments are very secret. However it's clear from open source documentation that one east coast, one west coast and one submarine on each entrance to the NWP (east and west) is the ideal availability. JSS were designed to be submarine...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    Yah I had to dive over the top of the bar to evade the furniture once. Lucky I didn't break anything (on myself or anywhere else).
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    https://defense-update.com/20221019_sea-spider.html There's a decent article on the system. Basically as torps get more sophisticated in their tracking and targeting decoys and evasion manouvers get less effective. So hard kill is likely more important. The main problem is detection of a torp...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    Its FER/FTA's part ship. Honestly I wish @Navy_Pete was helping me out here. He's got the full inside scoop on it and worked in the area for a while. Some of this might be new data/research, and some of it might just be "we used to know this stuff and forgot along the way".
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    ATTT anti torp torp torp? But as funny as it is, there isn't an Air Defence Missile Defence Missile for aircraft is there.
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    This is it. I guarantee one big fire in a mess and all that fire loading get jettisoned across the fleet. I think AOPS has it right with fire resistant cafeteria and smaller messes without as many combustibles. Little chance of things getting out of hand in there.
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    I don't think the CERA or CPO are going to do much. They are not the knowledge holders on that stuff. The fire loading thing is held by the Officers and Civi's at FMF. Its pretty nitche. There needs to be a full education blast on it from FER likely. @Navy_Pete IIRC could speak much better...
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    Canadian River Class Destroyer Megathread

    I find it hard to believe the MSEO is going around the ship demanding that stuff for the messes. More likely they are fighting a losing battle with the XO and Coxn. Which is usually the case in my experience. Because they don't know, nor do they seem to care judging moral a higher priority...
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    TKMS Type 212CD (Victoria class replacement megathread)

    Yah the name is stupid. ATT for short. But if they get it to target correctly... its going to completely revolutionize torpedo defence. Canada has been on the ground floor of this system for years. Magelean makes the rocket motors for the ATT (yes they are rocket propelled) and Atlas Electronik...
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