1 yr required between SHLVW qual & trailor qual (WTF)?

[Fdtrucker]

NLFD_SAPPER there is a lots of difference between the 15 ton beaver tail behind a heavy call sign to a 15 tonne PLS (Pallet Loading System) trailer (notice the imperial to metric and the PL System) they are talking about on this forum. Height and length as well as well hooking up are different. Putting a seacan or flat rack from a SHLVW to the  trailer or taking the flat rack or seacan from the trailer to the SHLVW (SUPER HLVW).  The flat rack must be deployed to the ground to load and then lifted up using the hydraulic system on both truck and trl or using the Container Handling Unit (CHU) to lift the seacans to and from the ground or truck or trl. These vehs and trailer are only found mostly at at RegF Svc Bn or some Base Tpt and have a separate CTP for qualification. Though a bunch of 2 RCHA pers were qual in 98 for a Roto for SFOR it is OSQ for 935/00171.01 MSE Ops only. Sorry about posting an unfinished msg but the fat fingers got in the way.

 

[392]

NLFD_SAPPER there is a lots of difference between the 15 ton beaver tail behind a heavy call sign to a 15 tonne PLS (Pallet Loading System) trailer (notice the imperial to metric and the PL System) they are talking about on this forum. Height and length as well as well hooking up are different. Putting a seacan or flat rack from a SHLVW to the  trailer or taking the flat rack or seacan from the trailer to the SHLVW (SUPER HLVW).  The flat rack must be deployed to the ground to load and then lifted up using the hydraulic system on both truck and trl or using the Container Handling Unit (CHU) to lift the seacans to and from the ground or truck or trl. These vehs and trailer are only found mostly at at RegF Svc Bn or some Base Tpt and have a separate CTP for qualification. Though a bunch of 2 RCHA pers were qual in 98 for a Roto for SFOR it is OSQ for 935/00171.01 MSE Ops only. Sorry about posting an unfinished msg but the fat fingers got in the way.

Are you telling me that SHLVW and CHU are a 935-only gig? I for one, call BS.

And, not to sound demeaning or anything, but please stop blowing sunshine up your own ass by trying to give technical-sounding descriptions of how PLS systems work, and how towing this and that is different from anything we use. Ever taken a stroll around a CER's compound and noticed the PLS pallets full of TONS of bridging pieces or defensive stores, MFR/MFB pontoons, MECC shelters, heavy equipment, etc. that require T/T's, PLS trucks AND their associated trailers to move from A to B? We are quite aware of how these systems work, and what the level of experience/qualification is that our troops require to move them.

 

[Timmy!]

    As a side note, I have seen (and DO NOT agree with) new QL3 privates training on T/T's and Refuelers before they even have 10k's on smaller vehicles.  an 18000 liter refueler sure feels different than driving dad's old Chevy!  Live load vs. dead load.
  And as we MSEOps all know, any good driver worth his salt should be able to turn a corner, light a smoke, and shift without grinding
  Out

As I just finshed teaching a Res QL3 course, we don't cover refuelers. Just SMP's only. And thank god. I am just waiting for my former students to get their first live load. It should be intresting times, but with me teaching their should be no problems. *Cross my fingers* Just my former troops with normal DG makes me think.

As for the whole SHLVW, I don't drive it. So I can't say.. the closest thing I have to HLVW Wrecker. =)

Happy Trucking to My Other Fellow MSE Ops..

And Chimo to my Sapper Buddies..

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Are you telling me that SHLVW and CHU are a 935-only gig? I for one, call BS.

And, not to sound demeaning or anything, but please stop blowing sunshine up your own ass by trying to give technical-sounding descriptions of how PLS systems work, and how towing this and that is different from anything we use. Ever taken a stroll around a CER's compound and noticed the PLS pallets full of TONS of bridging pieces or defensive stores, MFR/MFB pontoons, MECC shelters, heavy equipment, etc. that require T/T's, PLS trucks AND their associated trailers to move from A to B? We are quite aware of how these systems work, and what the level of experience/qualification is that our troops require to move them.

Well said 392 we do have alot of equipment that must be put on loadbeds, flat racks, and trailers.  A seacan on a flat rack or on a trailer doesn't have a mind of its on where as a zoom boom or the loader backhoe on a trailer do.

 

[Fdtrucker]

392
Yet to answer some or your question.  Only Reg SC Ban have the SHLVW and 15 Tonne PLS tr ls. But like I said in a earlier post Mrs of 2 RCHA were quail for a Root in 1998 only. What CER's have/had are the HESV (not a SMP Veg) the old HLVW DFRS or even the older Kenworth 15 (again not a SMP Veh). The trailer that were with the old Kenworth are out of the system or re configured to the HESV? Can they operate a PLS and PLS trailer - I would think yes. But are they driving SHLVW and the trailer made for them, I don't think so. SHLVW is a SMP and the HESV a Standard Commercial veh. I have not seen a SHLVW in 2 or 1 CER when I was Pet or now that I am in Edmonton. Just to give us insight in MY qual I operated the old 5 ton bridging equip in Chilliwack while on multiple 1 Cer Bridge camps, the HLVW DFRS including BAPS, Kenworth 15 ton and trl, and the SHLVW when it first came out while on IFOR roto 0 in 1996. While CER has multiple type of equip they carry on their vehs from their Regt the MSE Ops have a Brigade/ASG equip they carry on their vehs and trls. A SHLVW or HESV qual mbr will be able to adapt to different PLS vehs and PLS trailers depending on how well they are good as being Operaters.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Get over it and quit pissing up the wall. You guys aren't some sort of magical truck drivers. Boiled down to the lowest common denominator, it's still empire building. Everyone has their specialties, but this is pushing it a bit far.

 

[m1075]

I'm looking for pics and information on the SHLVW and the PLS trailer (made by Knight).  Can anyone point me in the right direction for additional information?  Does anyone have any pics? 

 

[Timmy!]

What sort of information on the SHLVW are you looking for? General Specs? Drop me a PM if you need so.

 

[Nfld Sapper]

IIRC the main difference between the HLVW and SHLVW would be,

SHLVW has dual wheels on the intermediate and rear axles and a different engine/transmission combination.

But I think TN2IC can fill you in better than I could.

 

[Timmy!]

Don't steal me thunder Sapper B'y.

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Don't steal me thunder Sapper B'y.

That's why I said this:

But I think TN2IC can fill you in better than I could.

BTW I think you need the patch  ;D

 

[Timmy!]

I am on the patch, that is the problem.


Back on track now troops.


Regards,
TN2IC

 

[Nfld Sapper]

Patch must not be big enough  ;D

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Ok no more jabs out in the open we'll be moving this to PM's ;D