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2016 Oregon Standoff/Occupation & related (split fm US Election: 2016)

Well everybody should be happy now.
The Sagebrush Rebellion folks have their martyr.
The lefties have their white dude killed by cops.
:sarcasm:
 
I note that Bundy had publicly turned down help by several of the militias that offered armed support.
 
Some of the latest ...
Cliven Bundy, the leader of a 2014 Nevada ranch stand-off with federal agents, was arrested on Wednesday at the same time the remaining four anti-government militants still holed up at a national wildlife refuge in Oregon decided they would finally turn themselves in.

Bundy, who is the father of the jailed leader of the Oregon stand-off, Ammon Bundy, was arrested on Wednesday when he arrived at Portland International Airport on his way to the wildlife refuge to support the militants, according to the Oregonian newspaper.

The 74-year-old — whose 2014 stand-off over grazing rights ended with federal agents backing down in the face of about 1,000 armed militiamen — faces conspiracy and weapons charges, the paper reported.

Meanwhile, a panicked discussion between the remaining four occupiers and some of their supporters was taking place as federal agents closed in on their hideout at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in remote eastern Oregon. The conversation was broadcast live online, via an independent Internet broadcast, "Revolution Radio," that is known to be sympathetic to the militia.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation said that no shots had been fired and that negotiations were continuing to end the 41-day standoff over federal land control in the western United States ...
 
Saw on the national news tonight that the final 4 have surrendered. It wasn't for lack of last minute posturing though. All 4 agreed to give themselves up, then one douche decided he wanted to die a free man than live live known as a surrender monkey. After a brief discussion about the stupidity of his stance, he agreed to give up if everyone cried "Hallelujah!".

I'm surprised these guys are able to tie their own shoe laces, let alone properly handle firearms without hurting themselves.

:facepalm:
 
And a little something from DHS/FBI on the fracas (source):
This Joint Intelligence Bulletin (JIB) is intended to provide information on the recent arrest of 11 domestic extremists for conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties through force, intimidation, or threats, in violation of 18 USC §372.* This JIB is provided by the FBI and DHS to support their respective activities and to assist federal, state, local, tribal, and territorial government counterterrorism and law enforcement officials in deterring, preventing, or disrupting terrorist attacks against the United States. As in any criminal case, defendants are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law ...
 
"All 11 individuals face federal felony charges of conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties through force, intimidation, or threats"

I can't see why they are guilty of anything other than civil disobedience.  Wasn't the building closed for the winter?  I suspect someone had to do a lot of digging to come up with such bizarre charges and a felony to boot.
 
Rocky Mountains said:
I can't see why they are guilty of anything other than civil disobedience.

"All 11 individuals face federal felony charges of conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties through force, intimidation, or threats"

I can't see why they are guilty of anything other than civil disobedience.  Wasn't the building closed for the winter?  I suspect someone had to do a lot of digging to come up with such bizarre charges and a felony to boot.

And if they stretched the charges, they might all walk away scot-free because beyond a reasonable doubt, what they did won't fit what they're charged with.
 
So more than a month of "gun toting loonies" headlines, the only person shot was one of the protesters, or whatever they were called.
 
Some interesting, nuanced coverage from one of the reporters who dropped by:
What more can be said? I was one of the hundreds of journalists who went to the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge during the Ammon Bundy occupation, and I saw the same things that all the rest of them did. If there was any difference between myself and those hundreds of other journalists, maybe it was that I went there looking for kindred spirits.

I am a self-employed, American-born writer with a wife and two teenage children living in a tiny town on the plains of Montana. I’m a reader of the U.S. Constitution, one who truly believes that the Second Amendment guarantees the survival of the rest of the Bill of Rights. I came of age reading Edward Abbey’s The Brave Cowboy, Orwell’s 1984, and a laundry-list of anarchists, from Tolstoy and Kropotkin to Bakunin and Proudhon, who gave me the maxim that defined my early twenties: “Whoever lays his hand on me to govern me is a usurper and a tyrant: I declare him my enemy.” ...
 
I think the Devil may object.  :facepalm:

Oregon Occupier Countersues For $666 Billion, Citing 'Works Of The Devil'

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/02/18/467204403/oregon-occupier-countersues-for-666-billion-citing-works-of-the-devil?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20160218

Shawna Cox, one of the last militants to be arrested for occupying an Oregon wildlife refuge last month, has filed a countersuit against the U.S. government and others in which she alleges "damages from the works of the devil in excess of 666,666,666,666.66."

While she invoked the number of the beast in her request for damages, Cox listed a wide array of people she plans to subpoena, including: ranchers in the western U.S.; judges and prosecutors; Oregon's current and former governor; local and state police officers; FBI agents; and "various law professors."

Cox said she plans to ask a jury to deliver civil and criminal penalties against many of those same people, who she says have worked to subvert the constitutional government and impose "socialism, communism and imperialism types of government onto the people of the United States of America."

The complaint was filed Wednesday, the same day a federal grand jury indicted Cliven Bundy along with his sons Ryan and Ammon and two other people for "a raft of felony charges related to a 2014 armed standoff," as Oregon Public Broadcasting reports. That 2014 standoff is seen as a forerunner to the occupation of the Malheur refuge in Oregon.

Federal and state police arrested Cox and Ammon and Ryan Bundy in late January; the Malheur standoff ended two weeks later with the surrender of the last holdouts at the refuge.

The federal charges against Cox include a felony count of "conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties through the use of force, intimidation, or threats."

Saying that she's the victim of malicious prosecution, Cox states that her group was using the legal tactic of "hostile adverse possession" to expose what they see as the federal government's fraudulent handling of land in the former Northwest Territories.

In her complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Oregon, Cox also says the group seized control of Malheur at a time when the refuge was preparing to shut down for the winter. She denies interfering with government employees, saying, "If anything, it was their choice to not come to work, out of guilt."

Yeah, that was it, guilt.  :facepalm:
 
Sounds like these asshats deserve to get the book thrown at them...

http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/oregon-occupiers-left-behind-guns-explosives-and-significant-amounts-of-human-feces-fbi

Oregon occupiers left behind guns, explosives and ‘significant amounts of human feces’: FBI

Nearly a week after the Oregon wildlife refuge occupation ended, federal authorities poring over the site say they have found firearms and explosives as well as “significant amounts of human feces” around an area that’s home to cultural artifacts.

The FBI said after the occupation concluded last week that it had begun a weeks-long process of searching the sprawling Malheur National Wildlife Refuge for explosives and other evidence. This effort involves agents specifically trained in dealing with crimes related to art and cultural property, because the refuge is the historical home to the Burns Paiute Tribe and thousands of tribal artifacts are at the site.

FBI agents combing through the site located a lot of human excrement near one sensitive cultural site and more human excrement on or near grounds with sensitive artifacts, federal prosecutors said in a court filing on Tuesday.

The tactical team that first secured the refuge found excrement in and around an outdoor camping area “is adjacent to or on a particularly sensitive cultural site,” according to the filing from the office of Billy Williams, the U.S. attorney for the District of Oregon.

Williams’s office said that they found a lot of this feces in and around an outdoor camping area. In addition, prosecutors said that the occupiers seem to have gotten into grounds holding artifacts.

“Occupiers appear to have excavated two large trenches and an improvised road on or adjacent to grounds containing sensitive artifacts,” the filing stated. “At least one of these trenches contains human feces.”

In addition, agents have found guns and explosives around the area and that they are concerned about the remaining locations in the refuge that have to be searched.
“There are numerous vehicles on the site and the FBI is concerned that vehicles and buildings may be booby trapped,” the filing said.

This document was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of Oregon after attorneys for the occupiers petitioned for access to the refuge. A grand jury indicted 16 people for the refuge occupation earlier this month, and last week Williams said that another nine people had been indicted for their roles.

An armed group seized the refuge on Jan. 2 in support of two local ranchers convicted of arson and soon said they were fighting the federal government’s management of federal lands. A little more than three weeks later, the FBI and Oregon State Police arrested the occupation’s leaders while they traveled on a highway outside the refuge. In that same encounter, an Oregon state trooper fatally shot LaVoy Finicum, a spokesman for the occupiers.

After the Jan. 26 arrests, other people fled the refuge or turned themselves in, leaving just four well-armed holdouts there for another two weeks. The group surrendered last Thursday after an extended period of frantic negotiations that involved a Nevada assemblywoman, an evangelist from North Carolina and an audience of tens of thousands listening online.

In addition to the people indicted so far for the refuge occupation, the father of the group’s leader was also arrested last week. Cliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who had his own armed standoff with federal agents, was taken into custody in Oregon last week for his actions during an armed confrontation at his ranch in 2014.
Bundy remains in jail after judge refused to release him during a hearing Tuesday in Portland.

As well, I do believe there are staff working at the refuge year round, and I recall reading elsewhere that these staffs' families were being intimidated in town by these yahoos.
 
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