2024 BC Election
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People on the left feel they are better than you and you should let them make all your decisions.
markppcli
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Belgian really gave them a hand in development
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Apparently there are not 49,000 ballots yet to be counted….
There are 65,000 ballots and David Eby acts quickly he might be able to ramp that up to at least 1,000,000,000
There are 65,000 ballots and David Eby acts quickly he might be able to ramp that up to at least 1,000,000,000
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In case you have a strong stomach, try and read this one...
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Given the number of people who voted for the BC Cons to keep Kamala Harris from becoming Premier, I’d say there’s a decent chance.
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Yeah my twitter has been full of twits going on about how a delay in counting is an obvious sign of a conspiracy. Not a result of the thorough process and checks and balances in place through the non partisan elections officials we have.
Although he didn’t have the best public persona and didn’t have much of the Baby Boomer vote, I think Stanfield would have made a very competent prime minister. I also liked Erin O’Toole. I guess I have a penchant for lost causes.
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No, you’re like me in thinking boring, competent managers make good premiers/prime ministers.
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Or having to wait for Canada Post to deliver them.
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A good reason to put limits, including end-of-voting and receipt deadlines, on mail-in votes.
There are no satisfactory reasons to not be able to put a hard number on the advance poll vote counts or a ceiling on the number of requested mail-in ballots when polls close on election day.
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I think if you request a mail in ballot, and submit by the approved date your vote should count no matter what Canada Post fails to do.
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A couple of years back I got a postcard from a friend on vacation that arrived several weeks after his return to Canada. Almost every year at least one expected monthly statement from one organization or another fails to ever show up in my mailbox. I don't get much mail that isn't junk. So what? It means sometimes stuff in the mail is delayed past the point of reason or lost entirely; my small sample size (denominator) means the fraction might be high.
Someone has probably already studied the reliability of the mail, and can point to some statistic that says (example) "99.9% of mail arrives with X days of being posted". So set a final date for postmark and another for acceptance that covers a range of X days. That includes generously allowing postmarking by election day (but not dropoff, if there's no guarantee of postmarking on pickup day), with a cutoff for acceptance X days after election day. If a mailed ballot is late, too bad.
In practice if the number of unaccounted ballots is known and is less than the separation between the leading and next candidates, the result can be certified as a win for the leader and the final count - no matter how long it takes - is just a number for posterity. So it's important to limit the number of ballots issued (ie. no shotgunning) and to know the number issued. Rarely - but not never - the certainty of fixed deadlines will be useful.
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BC, like other provinces, has a decent number of voters who pack up and go to warmer climates by early October. Also a large number working up North in remote areas. It makes sense to have about 3-5% mail in votes.
There is supposed to be an update today of how many ballots remain uncounted for each electoral district and the whole thing should be wrapped up by Monday.
Edit: but ballots which suddenly arrive in bulk from BC residents supposedly living in China or India ought to be closely looked at.
There is supposed to be an update today of how many ballots remain uncounted for each electoral district and the whole thing should be wrapped up by Monday.
Edit: but ballots which suddenly arrive in bulk from BC residents supposedly living in China or India ought to be closely looked at.
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The lingering image of Stanfield will always be that fumble. However, remember that he came within two seats of Trudeau's Liberals in the preceding 1972 election and it was only by the NDP propping them up that the Liberals continued as a minority government.
Though it is a view from a close associate, this is probably more accurate of the sense of the man.
Remembering Robert Stanfield: a good-humoured and gallant man
Let me begin with the worst moment in my life as press secretary to Robert Stanfield. This tribute to him can only improve from there. The 1974 federal election campaign had begun badly and was getting worse. As leader of the Progressive Conservative Party, Stanfield was promoting a policy of...
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I remember the 1974 election; I voted Progressive Conservative. I probably would have voted PC even if they had a worse leader - it was a family thing. In Newfoundland, to be a Liberal was to stand with Joey Smallwood and one either loved Joey or hated him; we hated him. I remember my grandfather relating a story about an event during the referendum campaign in which his interaction with Smallwood was summed up by "we had a rope around the little bastard's neck but the police showed up before we got it over a lamp post". Ah, good old fashioned politics. But back in '74, I don't recall that the lingering charisma of Trudeau was as much of a factor in the polls as the 'mania' of 1968.
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daftandbarmy
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Hoo boy...
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B.C. Conservative uses racist term to describe B.C.'s Indigenous people
Marina Sapozhnikov, candidate for Juan de Fuca-Malahat made comment in election night interview with VIU student
B.C. Conservative uses racist term to describe B.C.'s Indigenous people
Marina Sapozhnikov, candidate for Juan de Fuca-Malahat made comment in election night interview with VIU student
www.ladysmithchronicle.com
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Other than the "savages" remark, it's kind of true, they were quite busy fighting each other and taking slaves. They were farther behind technology wise than most of the South American populations. I would say the Coastal FN were ahead of the Prairies FN, but both were behind the Eastern FN like the Iroquois.Hoo boy...
B.C. Conservative uses racist term to describe B.C.'s Indigenous people
Marina Sapozhnikov, candidate for Juan de Fuca-Malahat made comment in election night interview with VIU student
B.C. Conservative uses racist term to describe B.C.'s Indigenous people
Marina Sapozhnikov, candidate for Juan de Fuca-Malahat made comment in election night interview with VIU student
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Self-inflicted wound... again....
Furstenau’s refusal to consider an arrangement with the Liberals simplified the negotiations for Horgan and the New Democrats.
When Horgan realized that the Greens would only dance with one partner, he knew he didn’t have to offer a lot of concessions, and he didn’t.
The power-sharing agreement mostly reflected positions the NDP had already taken in its election platform, with minor tweaks of a face-saving nature to the Greens.
With this week’s blast of righteousness against the Conservatives, Furstenau has once again reduced her own party’s bargaining leverage in dealing with the NDP.
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Sonia Furstenau's outburst at John Rustad guts her clout in negotiations with NDP
Vaughn Palmer: Just as in 2017, Furstenau has signalled the Greens will only deal with the NDP, which gives David Eby the upper handFurstenau’s refusal to consider an arrangement with the Liberals simplified the negotiations for Horgan and the New Democrats.
When Horgan realized that the Greens would only dance with one partner, he knew he didn’t have to offer a lot of concessions, and he didn’t.
The power-sharing agreement mostly reflected positions the NDP had already taken in its election platform, with minor tweaks of a face-saving nature to the Greens.
With this week’s blast of righteousness against the Conservatives, Furstenau has once again reduced her own party’s bargaining leverage in dealing with the NDP.
Sonia Furstenau's outburst at John Rustad guts her clout in negotiations with NDP
Vaughn Palmer: Just as in 2017, Furstenau has signalled the Greens will only deal with the NDP, which gives David Eby the upper hand
vancouversun.com
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