The Next Canadian Government

[FSTO]

nd as a reminder, Canadian COVID rules were provincially based, not federally based. So they should have protested Toronto, Winnipeg, Victoria…which they figured out in the end.

They tried Winnipeg and were shut down very quickly.
Once again, the whole issue in Ottawa was a failure of government officials (at all levels) to have a plan.
I doubt that even today they have a plan.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

But it’ll be interesting.

Actually, it'll be boring as all get up: This is a hearing on a procedural aspect of the law, applied to another procedural aspect of the law. The issue will be did the judge in the lower court make a mistake at law in the exercise of his/her judicial discretion in his/her decision to NOT throw out the action on SLAPP basis (that is, the action was only brought to silence people with an opposing point of view on a public matter from expressing it, i.e. silencing those you don't like), which itself comes with procedural safeguard - such as the fact that a judge on procedural matter should exercise extreme caution before deciding to terminate a case that hasn't been heard on it's full merit, and do so only in absolutely clear cases.

If I made that sound boring, the proceedings will be even more boring: trust me on that. Been there, done that.

 

[dapaterson]

I doubt that even today they have a plan.

They have the concept of a plan.

 

[brihard]

Actually, it'll be boring as all get up: This is a hearing on a procedural aspect of the law, applied to another procedural aspect of the law. The issue will be did the judge in the lower court make a mistake at law in the exercise of his/her judicial discretion in his/her decision to NOT throw out the action on SLAPP basis (that is, the action was only brought to silence people with an opposing point of view on a public matter from expressing it, i.e. silencing those you don't like), which itself comes with procedural safeguard - such as the fact that a judge on procedural matter should exercise extreme caution before deciding to terminate a case that hasn't been heard on it's full merit, and do so only in absolutely clear cases.

If I made that sound boring, the proceedings will be even more boring: trust me on that. Been there, done that.

You’re gonna shake your head at me, but at least at the level of just knowing a result and the reasoning, I actually do find the question of SLAPP applicability a bit interesting in this case. Usually we see the law around mass disruption and disorder emerge criminally. In this case the class action efforts to hold the convoy movement accountable are interesting, and will absolutely have potential significance when other protests movements with other causes create other disruptions that cause injury (in the tort sense). Civil remedy sought by those impacted rays SLAPP claims by protesters is an unusual facet of the constant balancing of rights as they pertain to dissent, and what’s lawful or not.

I’m not suggesting the proceedings themself would be good TV, just that if any precedent comes from this it could be interesting for like… I dunno, three of us.

 

[lenaitch]

Universities were blockaded for several months this spring over Gaza. Major arteries in Toronto were shutoff as well. The protesters chanted murderous slogans. Were any of their accounts frozen? The truckers asked for COVID laws to be relaxed so they could go back to living again. Seems to me that there is a huge discrepancy in motivation and malicious intent. Teens with signs aren't nearly as intimidating as a Kenworth and not near as loud as an air horn. Plus the libs seem to favour supporting the Palestinians. That is what made the difference

Perhaps the tactical error the convoy organizers made was to use their real names and pictures on regular social media, as opposed to being masked pseudonyms on the dark web. Props to that, I guess - publicly stand up for your convictions.

 

[The Bread Guy]

They tried Winnipeg and were shut down very quickly.

Same same with Queen’s Park - and IIRC the Windsor-Detroit bridge didn’t stay closed very long, either.

 

[brihard]

Same same with Queen’s Park - and IIRC the Windsor-Detroit bridge didn’t stay closed very long, either.

I suspect that if police hadn’t swiftly opened the bridge, they would have had a bigger mess to clean up from auto parts workers doing the job themselves.

 

[dapaterson]

I suspect that if police hadn’t swiftly opened the bridge, they would have had a bigger mess to clean up from auto parts workers doing the job themselves.

Sort of like how the Battle of Billings Bridge finally inspired the Ottawa Police?

 

[dimsum]

Actually, it'll be boring as all get up: This is a hearing on a procedural aspect of the law, applied to another procedural aspect of the law.

Don’t kink-shame

 

[dimsum]

Sort of like how the Battle of Billings Bridge finally inspired the Ottawa Police?

I’m still mad that OPS made them take down the plaque.

Plaque commemorating 'Battle of Billings Bridge' during 'Freedom Convoy' removed

A plaque memorializing a watershed moment of citizen resistance to the 'Freedom Convoy' last year has been taken down.

ottawa.ctvnews.ca

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I suspect that if police hadn’t swiftly opened the bridge, they would have had a bigger mess to clean up from auto parts workers doing the job themselves.

Now, we're an easy going bunch down here. Simple mafia like threats work most times.

 

[Remius]

Layoffs on the table for permanent government employees as part of spending review

The Public Service Alliance of Canada says the government is "opening the door for departments to slash permanent employees."

ottawacitizen.com

I’ve been saying this to some people at work. The PS will get cut regardless of who forms the next government. The current one has already started.

As always, it all depends on how it is done.

 

[Furniture]

Layoffs on the table for permanent government employees as part of spending review

The Public Service Alliance of Canada says the government is "opening the door for departments to slash permanent employees."

ottawacitizen.com

I’ve been saying this to some people at work. The PS will get cut regardless of who forms the next government. The current one has already started.

As always, it all depends on how it is done.

A friend of mine was trying to convince me to jump over to the PS and collect my pension a couple of years ago. I told him I didn't plan to be the last hire before the firing starts...

 

[McG]

If the government wants to hold the status-quo (or even improve) on defence spending commitments, it will need to hire in DND even if other places are being cut.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

If the government wants to hold the status-quo (or even improve) on defence spending commitments, it will need to hire in DND even if other places are being cut.

LOL, you and your logic. The TB will say "Every department will cut by 10%", wipe out corporate memory and then be forced to replace them.