2025 India / Pakistan war

[Fishbone Jones]

Wont be long before Brampton flares up....

I wonder if the Khalistanis will see this as a good time to start asserting their claims.

 

[MilEME09]

I wonder if the Khalistanis will see this as a good time to start asserting their claims.

That is what exactly what Modi would want, so if they are smart, they wont do it

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Impossible with the ethnic diversity we are so blessed with in this country. It won’t be long before we see marches for either sides demanding Canada “do more” to protect their side.

Might be a pleasant change instead of listening to the coopted Palestinian marchers braying their slogans.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Wont be long before Brampton flares up....

Rafael air strike on Brampton??? Elbows up or down for that?

 

[Maxman1]

Rafael air strike on Brampton??? Elbows up or down for that?

 

[ueo]

Let's hope so, but Modi has said that India will stop its water from flowing over international borders.

India to stop water flowing across international borders, Modi says

In Delhi's latest move against Pakistan, the PM says his country's water will now be "conserved for India's benefit".

www.bbc.com

From the article:

Doesn't sound very promising.

Hydrologically speaking, is this within reality?

 

[Staff Weenie]

Hydrologically speaking, is this within reality?

In theory almost anything is possible with enough decent engineering, money, and national will. In reality, it will not be that easy, it will take large sums of money, and unless Modi wants to be dictator for life (I'm not ruling that out either), it will not be completed under his watch. It could take years alone to do the proper analysis of where to place new dams, reservoirs, and essentially new riverbeds. There may well be unpredicted and severe negative impacts on the ecology in India as well.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Does it seem like the 'targeted air strikes' were based on very old intel, and a bit random? This whole situation seems potentially terrible, and a bit more significant that previous border skirmishes.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

As one blogger asks, why were the Mosque full of woman and children at night?

Pakistan lies to itself, almost as much as it lies to the world.

 

[KevinB]

Does it seem like the 'targeted air strikes' were based on very old intel, and a bit random?

All for the show and appeasement of the crowds.

This whole situation seems potentially terrible, and a bit more significant that previous border skirmishes.

Potentially - but they seem to do this every few years and then settle back down.

 

[Navy_Pete]

All for the show and appeasement of the crowds.


Potentially - but they seem to do this every few years and then settle back down.

For sure, just don't remember it involving missile attacks into Punjab and artillery fire back previous times, but maybe just not widely reported. The BBC does a much better job covering that region.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Maybe a Rafaela loss… maybe ….

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920125742865629339

 

[Fishbone Jones]

The Liberal Party of Canada and the modern Republican Party believe in essentially the same thing: that soft power and hard power are mutually exclusive.

Hard power for the US is parking a Carrier Group off a belligerents coast.
What is our response? What hard power do we possess?

 

[Quirky]

What is our response? What hard power do we possess?

Overload the UNs office with letters. DEEPLY concerning letters to the receiver.

 

[GR66]

Maybe a Rafaela loss… maybe ….

https://twitter.com/x/status/1920125742865629339

It would appear that India's loss of one Rafale and one MiG-29 are confirmed - along with Pakistani use of Chinese-made PL-15 Air-to-Air missiles.

Wreckage of Indian MiG-29 fighter found in Kashmir

An ejection seat believed to belong to an Indian Air Force MiG-29 fighter jet was discovered in the Indian-administered region of Jammu and Kashmir’s Ramban district. Photos from the scene show a Russian-made Zvezda K-36DM ejection seat, a system used in India’s MiG-29 and Su-30MKI aircraft...

defence-blog.com

Photos from the scene show a Russian-made Zvezda K-36DM ejection seat, a system used in India’s MiG-29 and Su-30MKI aircraft. Additionally, remnants of an RD-33 engine—standard on the MiG-29—were identified, confirming the aircraft type involved.

The crash site lies more than 90 kilometers from the Line of Control (LoC), suggesting the aircraft was struck at an unusually long range, prompting speculation about advanced beyond-visual-range (BVR) missile use in the current confrontation as PL-15.

Chinese-made PL-15 missile debris found in India

Indian authorities have recovered parts of a Chinese-made PL-15 air-to-air missile in Hoshiarpur, Punjab, following recent military escalations with Pakistan. Indian media published photos of the missile remnants, though the circumstances of the missile’s presence in Indian territory remain...

defence-blog.com

Indian Rafale crashes after night raid

An Indian Air Force Rafale fighter jet crashed approximately 20 kilometers from Bhisiana Airbase in Punjab during the early hours of May 7. The crash site, located in the village of Akali Kurd, was quickly cordoned off by military personnel as emergency services responded. Eyewitnesses and...

defence-blog.com

It also appears that Pakistan may have taken down one of its own Mirage V's in a case of friendly fire

Pakistan may have shot down own fighter jet

An ejection seat believed to be from a Pakistani Air Force Mirage V fighter jet was discovered in Lahore, sparking speculation that Pakistan may have lost one of its aircraft amid a night strike from India. Footage showing the seat was first shared on TikTok earlier today. While the video’s...

defence-blog.com

 

[KevinB]

For sure, just don't remember it involving missile attacks into Punjab and artillery fire back previous times, but maybe just not widely reported. The BBC does a much better job covering that region.

Artillery back and forth has been a thing. But you are right the air and missile attacks are a new thing as far as I know.

The aircraft losses to both sides may give some pause, or ratchet up things.

 

[Spencer100]

Dassault down Chengdu up. In the end its all about the money

JF-17 makers stocks surge, Rafale's Dassault Aviation slump

Pakistan’s downing of Indian Rafale jets boosts shares of Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC), while Dassault Aviation’s stock plunges.

www.techjuice.pk

 

[KevinB]

Dassault down Chengdu up. In the end its all about the money

JF-17 makers stocks surge, Rafale's Dassault Aviation slump

Pakistan’s downing of Indian Rafale jets boosts shares of Chengdu Aircraft Corporation (CAC), while Dassault Aviation’s stock plunges.

www.techjuice.pk

FWIW I’d trust any Indian or Pakistani reports equally at this point - meaning zero trust.

While the BBC is usually pretty good, what they are able to report may be a little misleading at best.

Pakistan's PM says it 'made reply' to Indian strikes after Pahalgam killings - latest

Shehbaz Sharif says Pakistan responded to India's air strikes by downing Indian jets, a claim Delhi has not confirmed.

www.bbc.com

 

[Spencer100]

It looks like one or more J-10 with PL15's took at least two IAF Rafales.

China’s PL-15 Air-To-Air Missile Appears To Have Been Used In Combat For The First Time

The apparent use of China's PL-15 by Pakistan in the recent eruption of hostilities with India comes as Rafale shoot-down claims swirl. A French intelligence official has reportedly confirmed the combat loss of an Indian Air Force Rafale taking part in recent strikes.

www.twz.com

 

[OldSolduer]

What they need