2025 U.S. - Venezuela conflict

[OldSolduer]

Today has been full of fairly disturbing news, this is just another.

Hegseth order on first Caribbean boat strike, officials say: Kill them all​

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Why do we care, they're drug runners. Play by the sword, die by the sword.

Not surprising and honestly its tantamount to murder. While "killing them all" may resonate with the common person on the streets of the USA what message does this send to the rest of us?

The USA for the last 250 years was the leading nation for civil rights. Indeed, a lot of the rights we see were pioneered by people like MLK Jr, JFK, RFK and LBJ.

No due process. "Kill them all". This is what dictators and rogue nations do. Not democracies.

 

[brihard]

Is it go time?

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Great. Do Trump tweets count as NOTAMs now?

 

[Rifleman62]

“I don’t know about that drug stuff but he’s been treated very badly. And he says really nice things about me.”

Stroke the ego.

Does he speak like that so Americans can understand him or is he a simpleton?

 

[OldSolduer]

Stroke the ego.

Does he speak like that so Americans can understand him or is he a simpleton?

I would say he's a simpleton at this point. I do think there is a mental issue with him....

 

[Remius]

Not surprising and honestly its tantamount to murder. While "killing them all" may resonate with the common person on the streets of the USA what message does this send to the rest of us?

A bad message,

The USA for the last 250 years was the leading nation for civil rights. Indeed, a lot of the rights we see were pioneered by people like MLK Jr, JFK, RFK and LBJ.

No it wasn’t. A lot of other countries were already way ahead of the US on all of those things. Universal suffrage for example wouldn’t be official until 1965. And official segregation didn’t end until that year as well. And if you look at things like slavery lasting quite sometime longer than other western nations, Jim Crow laws after etc etc, refusal to sanction South Africa apartheid, the last 250 years of the US does not exactly place them as a “leading” nation for civil rights.

No due process. "Kill them all". This is what dictators and rogue nations do. Not democracies.

For sure.

 

[OldSolduer]

No it wasn’t. A lot of other countries were already way ahead of the US on all of those things. Universal suffrage for example wouldn’t be official until 1965. And official segregation didn’t end until that year as well. And if you look at things like slavery lasting quite sometime longer than other western nations, Jim Crow laws after etc etc, refusal to sanction South Africa apartheid, the last 250 years of the US does not exactly place them as a “leading” nation for civil rights.

Got me on that one for sure BUT the publicity sure didn't hurt.

 

[lenaitch]

Why do we care, they're drug runners. Play by the sword, die by the sword.

Because a civil society is supposed to be better than that?