2025 U.S. - Venezuela conflict

[Brad Sallows]

Apparently, killing shipwrecked Kriegsmarine or IJN sailors is used as an example of a war crime in the US military’s LOAC manual.

Why is that relevant?

If the point of an attack is to sink a boatload of drugs, the attack may continue until the boatload of drugs is sunk. The best information to emerge after the initial spate of bullshit indicates that "killing shipwrecked sailors" was not the purpose of a subsequent salvo. If information emerges that definitively proves an attack was ordered specifically to kill shipwrecked sailors, then critics will have something. Mere "I know what they really were thinking" won't do.

If boatloads of drugs may legitimately be destroyed out of hand, it doesn't matter where the drugs are going. People who don't want boatloads of drugs to be destroyed out of hand are going to have to figure out ways to free up the necessary policing, court, and detention capabilities. Either create more or make some triage decisions to cut back some other uses of all of those.

 

[Genetk44]

Moving on quickly from the drugs.

Trump orders blockade of sanctioned oil tankers leaving, entering Venezuela

It is unclear how the U.S. will impose the blockade against the sanctioned vessels, and whether Trump will turn to the Coast Guard to interdict vessels like he did last week.

www.reuters.com

And now the actual raison d’être is starting to manifest….

 

[Genetk44]

There is a reason that Hegseth said today he isn’t releasing the video of that double-tap on the boat back in September…and it isn’t the bs “ national security” reason he gave. And I predict that unfortunately for him and this administration that video will eventually see the light of day and there will be consequences.

 

[Furniture]

If the point of an attack is to sink a boatload of drugs, the attack may continue until the boatload of drugs is sunk.

Sadly, the "West" no longer has the stomach for that sort of practical thinking.

During a "Force Protection" exercise I was once told that a small boat that had been "shooting" at us was no longer a valid target because they had altered slightly away from the ship... Like, the only difference was they had gone from shooting, to not shooting and driving away slightly... Only an out of touch society can justify that sort of silliness.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Sadly, the "West" no longer has the stomach for that sort of practical thinking.

During a "Force Protection" exercise I was once told that a small boat that had been "shooting" at us was no longer a valid target because they had altered slightly away from the ship... Like, the only difference was they had gone from shooting, to not shooting and driving away slightly... Only an out of touch society can justify that sort of silliness.

My brother!

 

[Lumber]

Sadly, the "West" no longer has the stomach for that sort of practical thinking.

During a "Force Protection" exercise I was once told that a small boat that had been "shooting" at us was no longer a valid target because they had altered slightly away from the ship... Like, the only difference was they had gone from shooting, to not shooting and driving away slightly... Only an out of touch society can justify that sort of silliness.

I think I might have already shared this dit somewhere else on this site. Not sure if it's true, but it's a story told by a US observer who was stationed at one of the "safer" German run bases in northern Afghanistan. They had what appeared on camera to be a group of Taliban fighters setting up a mortar position within range of the base. The US observer asked if they were going to engage them, to which the Germans replied "We can't, they haven't actually fired at us."...Ok... so then the Taliban launched a mortar at the base, and everyone takes cover. After the dust cleared, the US observer then asks "NOW will you shoot at them?", to which the Germans replied, "No, look at the camera feed. They are dismantling their mortar, which means they are no longer a threat and not engageable."

 

[daftandbarmy]

Sadly, the "West" no longer has the stomach for that sort of practical thinking.

During a "Force Protection" exercise I was once told that a small boat that had been "shooting" at us was no longer a valid target because they had altered slightly away from the ship... Like, the only difference was they had gone from shooting, to not shooting and driving away slightly... Only an out of touch society can justify that sort of silliness.

Sadly it takes awhile, and quite a few casualties, for liberal democracies to properly acclimatize to killing bad guys ...

 

[QV]

Sadly, the "West" no longer has the stomach for that sort of practical thinking.

During a "Force Protection" exercise I was once told that a small boat that had been "shooting" at us was no longer a valid target because they had altered slightly away from the ship... Like, the only difference was they had gone from shooting, to not shooting and driving away slightly... Only an out of touch society can justify that sort of silliness.

Not sure you would want to allow them time to re-load or re-position to continue to try and kill you...

This is a leadership problem.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Sadly it takes awhile, and quite a few casualties, for liberal democracies to properly acclimatize to killing bad guys ...

We used to have no problem. How did we de-acclimatize to this ?

 

[OldSolduer]

Sadly, the "West" no longer has the stomach for that sort of practical thinking.

During a "Force Protection" exercise I was once told that a small boat that had been "shooting" at us was no longer a valid target because they had altered slightly away from the ship... Like, the only difference was they had gone from shooting, to not shooting and driving away slightly... Only an out of touch society can justify that sort of silliness.

And don't think the bad guys don't play on Western stupidity. We have too many soft headed individuals in positions of power.

 

[QV]

We used to have no problem. How did we de-acclimatize to this ?

Leadership.

Recall Uncle Rick and his speech?

We don't have leaders like that anymore, and the government ensures it.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Leadership.

Recall Uncle Rick and his speech?

We don't have leaders like that anymore, and the government ensures it.

I think it goes back further than that. The longer I live the more I think the 60s needs to be expunged from all records.

 

[OldSolduer]

We used to have no problem. How did we de-acclimatize to this ?

Several reasons and I think it goes as far back as the Vietnam war. The 7/24 news cycle. The prosecution of soldiers while the perpetrators of mass murder are given a free pass due to "culture".

Thank the progressive elements - the ones that never have to deal with the real world.