2025 U.S. - Venezuela conflict

[Halifax Tar]

Sinking of ARA General Belgrano - Wikipedia

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Last Capital ship I know of being sunk. Didn’t go good for them then and that was with technology that is 40+ years old at this point.

Condensing strength in a few capital ships is a mistake. WWII that was the big debate, aircraft carriers or BBs. Aircraft carriers won out big time, just ask Japan.

Today large ships are more vulnerable than ever. You’re putting all your eggs in one easy to sink basket. I would guess the way to go is unmanned drone craft controlled by a larger manned ship but that is just speculation on my part.

Building a BB today is a ego play not a practical one.

The Belgrano was a WW2 Brooklyn Class light cruiser. Not even in the same topic when it comes to armor and survivability as BB or CV.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Sinking of ARA General Belgrano - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Last Capital ship I know of being sunk. Didn’t go good for them then and that was with technology that is 40+ years old at this point.

Condensing strength in a few capital ships is a mistake. WWII that was the big debate, aircraft carriers or BBs. Aircraft carriers won out big time, just ask Japan.

Today large ships are more vulnerable than ever. You’re putting all your eggs in one easy to sink basket. I would guess the way to go is unmanned drone craft controlled by a larger manned ship but that is just speculation on my part.

Building a BB today is a ego play not a practical one.

That was a WWII cruiser, sunk by a WWII torpedo.

AI response to "How many torpedo did it take to sink a WWII battleship on average"

During World War II, sinking a battleship generally required 3 to 5 torpedo hits for standard modern designs, though this number varied significantly based on the ship's size, age, and the type of torpedo used.
Factors Influencing Sinking Time
Ship Displacement: Modern "treaty" battleships (roughly 35,000–45,000 tons) typically required at least 3–5 hits to sink. Older World War I-era battleships, which lacked modern torpedo defense systems, were occasionally sunk by a single torpedo, such as the Conte di Cavour at Taranto.
Torpedo Type: Submarine and destroyer-launched torpedoes carried significantly larger warheads than aerial torpedoes. Historically, one submarine torpedo was considered equivalent to approximately two aerial torpedoes in destructive power.
Hit Concentration: Attacks concentrated on a single side (to cause capsizing) were more effective than hits spread across both sides, which could inadvertently help the ship maintain stability through "counter-flooding".
Notable Examples of Torpedo Hits

The number of confirmed hits often remains a subject of historical debate due to the chaos of battle:
HMS Prince of Wales: Sunk by 4 torpedo hits (aerial).
HMS Barham: Sunk by 3 torpedo hits (submarine).
Bismarck: Effectively neutralized by a single "lucky" hit to the rudder, though it took multiple subsequent torpedoes and heavy shellfire to eventually sink it.
Scharnhorst: Sunk after taking an estimated 11 torpedo hits in addition to heavy shellfire.
Yamato & Musashi: These "super-battleships" required massive numbers of hits to sink. The Yamato was sunk by at least 11–13 torpedoes, while the Musashi absorbed an estimated 19 torpedo hits over several hours.

 

[Kirkhill]

Disconnected transponder.

Panama says Venezuela-related tanker intercepted by US did not follow maritime rules

The Centuries, targeted by the Coast Guard last weekend, was flying Panama's flag.

www.reuters.com

 

[HavokFour]

Looks like this one is getting away. I'd be interested to see where it's headed.

Exclusive: US Coast Guard lacks forces to seize Venezuela-linked tanker for now, sources say

The days-long pursuit highlights the mismatch between the Trump administration's desire to seize sanctioned oil tankers near Venezuela and the agency’s limited resources.

www.reuters.com

EDIT: May be headed around Africa the long way avoid having to turn on it's transponder to be allowed into the Suez.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2003401897290473891

 

[HavokFour]

And we have escalation, first strike on land. Very little detail however.

Trump says US hit Venezuela dock where drugs were allegedly loaded

U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday said the U.S. had "hit" a dock area in Venezuela where he alleged drugs were loaded onto boats.

www.reuters.com

 

[YZT580]

And we have escalation, first strike on land. Very little detail however.

Trump says US hit Venezuela dock where drugs were allegedly loaded

U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday said the U.S. had "hit" a dock area in Venezuela where he alleged drugs were loaded onto boats.

www.reuters.com

and that is why he is letting Ukraine hang. Can't afford 2 wars and Venezuela is a much easier target.

 

[QV]

and that is why he is letting Ukraine hang. Can't afford 2 wars and Venezuela is a much easier target.

What reason, do you suppose, is the EU is letting the Ukraine hang?

 

[Brad Sallows]

What reason, do you suppose, is the EU is letting the Ukraine hang?

Can't afford 1 war.

 

[Czech_pivo]

What reason, do you suppose, is the EU is letting the Ukraine hang?

The EU has 27 monkeys for the Organ Grinder to keep dancing to tue music. The US has only 1 monkey.

 

[YZT580]

Can't afford 1 war.

possibly true but from my experience living there, they can't agree on anything and it takes unanimous agreement to accomplish anything: all Putin has to do is keep Hungary on his side and the EU is totally neutered. Effectively just like the veto issues in the U.N.

 

[RangerRay]

and that is why he is letting Ukraine hang. Can't afford 2 wars and Venezuela is a much easier target.

That’s assuming he would support Ukraine even if it was the only war on…

 

[Fishbone Jones]

and that is why he is letting Ukraine hang. Can't afford 2 wars and Venezuela is a much easier target.

He had Zelensky at Mar-a-Lago this weekend working on brokering a deal. It appears Ukraine is still very much at the table.

 

[HavokFour]

So with this new information either they have no idea what is actually on these boats, or we can expect airstrikes in 40 US states and Canada where it's legal at some point.

Then there is the matter of the loading dock strike to boot.

Grim Evidence of Trump’s Boat Strikes Washes Ashore on a Colombian Peninsula

First came the scorched boat. Then the mangled bodies. Then the packets with traces of marijuana. Now, fishermen fear the ocean that feeds them.

www.nytimes.com

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[Kirkhill]

 

[Altair]

So with this new information either they have no idea what is actually on these boats, or we can expect airstrikes in 40 US states and Canada where it's legal at some point.

Then there is the matter of the loading dock strike to boot.

Grim Evidence of Trump’s Boat Strikes Washes Ashore on a Colombian Peninsula

First came the scorched boat. Then the mangled bodies. Then the packets with traces of marijuana. Now, fishermen fear the ocean that feeds them.

www.nytimes.com

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According to Rand Paul, 25 percent of coast guard interdictions find zero narcotics.

Stands to reason that they simply don't know what are on these boats. But superpowers don't care about war crimes.