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That could be ominous, or it could be routine (military options not being expressly disavowed).
2026 US-Denmark Tensions/End of NATO
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So a White House press announcement just explicitly said that the use of the military is an option for the ‘important policy objective’ of acquiring Greenland. So, I mean, there’s that.
US discussing options to acquire Greenland, including use of military - White House
It came as European allies rallied behind Denmark after renewed US insistence it must have Greenland.www.bbc.com
I'll have to go watch the actual presser for the full context. The BBC has demonstrated a flair for inaccuracy regarding this administration (to be charitable).
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So a White House press announcement just explicitly said that the use of the military is an option for the ‘important policy objective’ of acquiring Greenland. So, I mean, there’s that.
US discussing options to acquire Greenland, including use of military - White House
It came as European allies rallied behind Denmark after renewed US insistence it must have Greenland.
Might be time to cowboy up and deploy a NATO Brigade etc to Denmark for an 'exercise'/ show of commitment.
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Like say... a USMC Expeditionary Brigade?
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Puerto Rico is the US - US law is supreme, US dollar is the only currency, the people are US citizens the moment they are born, US Customs and Immigration run the borders, they sing the US National Anthem, they fly the US flag, they have US healthcare, they pay into Social Security, they can join the US military, they represent the US in the Olympics, its the US education system and curriculum, they have elected members in Congress - all of that but they can’t vote for the US President because PR would vote blue and those blue votes would translate into blue US Electoral Votes.
What you are saying is the landmass that is the 50 states of the US. It’s a 2 class system see.
Do you think it would be any different for the citizens of Canada if we ‘joined’ the US? We’d have all that accept the right to vote for the leader of the country and we’d have to realise that no living person on Canadian soil at the time that Canada joined the US could ever become the US President because of the requirement that the US President must have been born in the US, to US citizens (as well as be over 35yrs of age and have resided in the US for a min of 14yrs).
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It could be black or it could be white.
The sun could be rising or the sun could be setting.
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Anyone aware of how many CDN troops are currently deployed at Thule?So a White House press announcement just explicitly said that the use of the military is an option for the ‘important policy objective’ of acquiring Greenland. So, I mean, there’s that.
US discussing options to acquire Greenland, including use of military - White House
It came as European allies rallied behind Denmark after renewed US insistence it must have Greenland.
Fairly certain that a number are, just like there are Danish troops at Thule as well.
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Probably very few, but would increase (just-in-time manning) when a BOXTOP mission was scheduled.
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The Trump administrations continued talk of acquiring Greenland and their continued talk of possibly using military force to do so is destructive and totally irresponsible. It has already eroded and severely damaged 70 years worth of effort building trust and respect between the western powers and keeping a rules based international order and system of world governance relatively stable. Even if Trumps administration fell tomorrow and was replaced by a more rational administration the damage that has already been done and the trust that has been broken to date will take many,many many, years to heal.
Openly talking about using military force against a NATO ally to seize their routine is never ‘routine’, don’t be absurd.
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Exactly, allies don’t threaten each others sovereignty, generally that is reserved for enemies.
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Also, Greenland’s two members of the Folketing have full privileges and authorities as other Danish members. Puerto Rico has one non-voting, second tier junior member.
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Yes. They have three options: status quo, agitate for statehood, agitate for independence.
I am afraid I have no family connection, so I have to rely on what opinion writers and pollsters produce. What I understand is that PR would get a lot less federal money if it were a state, and the people that live there know that. They would get no federal money if it were independent. So they're kind of stuck in that unhappy place, trading not-statehood for more subsidy.
None of that changes my point that being a US citizen of a US territory offers a heckuva slate of advantages to anyone willing to take them up.
I don't know what it would be.
The US occupies Canada for a little while, and then goes home after telling us to be more obedient?
The US indefinitely occupies Canada?
The US doesn't quite indefinitely occupy Canada, but tries to install a government and then keeps having to come back anyways to deal with malcontents who demand at least territorial status?
The US accepts parts of Canada as states and territories?
None of this is actually worth worrying about?
I cannot emphasize enough how little I care about the triviality that for a while, no one born on former Canadian soil would be able to run for president.
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Openly talking about stuff that everyone intelligent simply had to assume was there anyways in past years is refreshing.
Adults with important jobs getting upset because someone diplomatically farted audibly is what's absurd.
You are plumbing depths of obliviousness here I never would have thought to credit you with.
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Please list 5 things that would be tangibly better for a CDN citizen if they had US citizenship. Can’t wait to see this list.
Mind, if an individual has the means, through education/experience, to immigrate to the US from Canada, the way forward is possible.
Remember, I have dual citizenship and have lived/worked in both Michigan and Massachusetts in the past and have a daughter attending University there on scholarship playing D1 soccer. I’ve walked and walked on both sides of the border.
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No. I'm being consistent with a minor theme I've stuck to for years. Trump and his administration will say out loud things everyone understands to be true, but refrain from saying. They will demonstrate human failings that are common to politicians, but most keep under wraps while the rest pretend not to know. No-one likes the sausage-making to be exposed, but I find it useful. All pretext for denial that these things go on is eliminated.
What's out in the open is easy to muster public opinion against. The shit they pull behind closed doors is what's hard to fix.
Diplomats live in a world of structured niceties and ritual, so of course they are aghast. I'm not a diplomat.
