2026 US-Denmark Tensions/End of NATO

[Jarnhamar]

national survival is about to change those policies me thinks

We're making a survival kit after the plane goes down

Blunt, but sadly he's not wrong. Carney continues to surprise.

I liked the analogy about the shop keepers putting the sign up in the window even though they don't believe it. Clever, but it immediately think of Carney flirting with Trump about his tie colour and our immediate apology for the 100% true and accurate ad Ford put out. Carney is waiting for other shops to take their signs down first.

 

[Altair]

So, is it still a joke? Or will the handwaving and sanewashing continue?

Greenland PM Tells People to Prepare for Possible Invasion​

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This.

That said, those who thought the Jan 3rd operation against venezuela showed that Trump had zero regard for international laws and this was the first of a series of escalations can sure feel vindicated now.

 

[Jarnhamar]

So no, it's a stupid talking point and a diversion to go from focusing on the threat to, "But da Liberals....."

Getting rid of any firearms when you're threatened with an invasion from another country is a stupid COA and signals you're not really contemplating any sort of resistance other than jumping on a plane and flying to Europe- for those of us who can afford it.

 

[Altair]

We're making a survival kit after the plane goes down




I liked the analogy about the shop keepers putting the sign up in the window even though they don't believe it. Clever, but it immediately think of Carney flirting with Trump about his tie colour and our immediate apology for the 100% true and accurate ad Ford put out. Carney is waiting for other shops to take their signs down first.

We tried. We put up tariffs when nobody else did. The UK chose appeasement. The EU chose appeasement. China chose to fight back and the USA struck a deal with them leaving us alone on an island. Makes sense for us to be gun shy now.

 

[Brad Sallows]

national survival is about to change those policies me thinks

It is not.

Everyone wonders about threats and how to judge them. One way to judge threats is by how the people in charge act, if you assume they have access to more information than you and that they are as capable as (or more than) you of making use of that information. If it's business as usual, they've discounted the threat to zero.

 

[ytz]

We tried. We put up tariffs when nobody else did. The UK chose appeasement. The EU chose appeasement. China chose to fight back and the USA struck a deal with them leaving us alone on an island. Makes sense for us to be gun shy now.

100%

People forget that the Europeans caved and didn't even back us last year during the 51st state schtick. Starmer even evaded a question from reporters at the White House. Trump doesn't respect weakness. So now, he's going after them.

If they came back and responded with a massive tariff package, both showing a willingness to take pain and impose it on the US, Trump would have responded the way he did on China. I'll note that he's not imposed any real tariffs on Russia either. In fact, he had troops roll out the red carpet, literally, for Putin. Would have also given us an opening to coordinate.

 

[Jarnhamar]

We tried. We put up tariffs when nobody else did. The UK chose appeasement.

That's not accurate. When Trump imposed new 25 % tariffs on steel and aluminum in 2025 Canada AND the EU announced retaliatory tariffs on US goods worth tens of billions of dollars. It wasn't just Canada.

Makes sense for us to be gun shy now.

In the words of the Millie Bobby Brown, “I don’t want to be scared of things. I want to be fearless.”

 

[Quirky]

Getting rid of any firearms when you're threatened with an invasion from another country is a stupid COA and signals you're not really contemplating any sort of resistance other than jumping on a plane and flying to Europe- for those of us who can afford it.

My social media pages are ready for any and all possibilities in stands of solidarity for those who will fight and die on my behalf - Canadians.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Destroying a million guns when we have an undefended border with a megalomaniac lead country threatening to invade us an our neighbor is bad math IMO.

Also part of the calculus would be where those guns are (are they owned in areas likely to be attacked or occupied), as well as what proportion would be willing the owners would be to defend current Canadian management. If we’re seeing a range of opinions here on the forums re: whether or how much to bend the knee, could be similar among gun owners.

 

[Altair]

That's not accurate. When Trump imposed new 25 % tariffs on steel and aluminum in 2025 Canada AND the EU announced retaliatory tariffs on US goods worth tens of billions of dollars. It wasn't just Canada.

That's 100 percent accurate. The EU announced tariffs. They NEVER implemented them.

 

[Brad Sallows]

Getting rid of any firearms when you're threatened with an invasion from another country is a stupid COA and signals you're not really contemplating any sort of resistance other than jumping on a plane and flying to Europe- for those of us who can afford it.

First the gold, though.

Capital flight is a useful indicator of what people really believe.

 

[Jarnhamar]

That's 100 percent accurate. The EU announced tariffs. They NEVER implemented them.

Google is telling me the tariffs were implemented (and begun collection of) in April 2025 and paused mid-July 2025 for the sake of negotiations.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Well worth it to watch the whole speech

Carney quoted a man that I meet previously a few times when I worked in the Czech Republic - Vaclav Havel - I loved Havel and all that he stood for, he had seen and experienced societal and moral collapse first hand. This is no different today.

I can still close my eyes and clearly see Tomas Bata, Havel and Otto Jelinek talking "Czechlish" (Czech/English together) off in a corner at Narondi divadlo after a performance of Meesha Brueggergosman during Romeo Leblanc's official state visit. Tomas Bata, the son of 'the' Tomas Bata who fled Czechoslovakia in 1939 to Canada and Otto Jelinek who's family fled Czechoslovakia in 1948 to Canada during the Communist coup.

I have also had a quote from Havel in my tagline since joining this forum. Its a quote that I believe in.

 

[Czech_pivo]

No. But the idea that what is stopping Canadians from firing a shot is gun control policy is real stretch in a country that has millions of firearms in circulation.

Not to mention that if we all suddenly wake up inside the USA, it becomes a lot easier to go buy guns at that point. And you can do it in places that aren't Canada. You don't wage a successful insurgency just on your own territory......

Lol, you assume that the US will allow Canadians to purchase/own guns in the same manner that an American can. HUGE assumption friend.

 

[Altair]

Google is telling me the tariffs were implemented (and begun collection of) in April 2025 and paused mid-July 2025 for the sake of negotiations.

You're misreading google.

Europe put in place/restarted the 4.5b tariffs from 2018. They never implemented the expanded 93b in tariffs they announced in 2025.

 

[Jarnhamar]

You're misreading google.

Europe put in place/restarted the 4.5b tariffs from 2018. They never implemented the expanded 93b in tariffs they announced in 2025.

You’re collapsing two different things. You’re right that the EU reinstated the old 2018 counter-tariffs (4–8Be) when the US steel/aluminum tariffs came back. That doesn’t mean the EU “did nothing” though. Those tariffs were implemented and collected.

You’re also right that the 93Be list announced in 2025 was approved (but conditional) and hasn’t fully entered into force yet. That’s different from “never implementing any tariffs.” The EU retaliated immediately with the existing measures and kept the larger package as leverage.

*missed a word

 

[HavokFour]

That might be a domino if more follow.

Danish pension fund to sell $100 million in Treasuries, citing 'poor' US government finances​

 

[daftandbarmy]

Beautiful…

https://twitter.com/x/status/2013618277998588296

 

[Altair]

You’re collapsing two different things. You’re right that the EU reinstated the old 2018 counter-tariffs (4–8Be) when the US steel/aluminum tariffs came back. That doesn’t mean the EU “did nothing” though. Those tariffs were implemented and collected.

You’re also right that the 93Be list announced in 2025 was approved (but conditional) and hasn’t fully entered into force yet. That’s different from “never implementing any tariffs.” The EU retaliated immediately with the existing measures and kept the larger package as leverage.

*missed a word

Meanwhile Canada put into place 30b worth of tariffs on US goods.

Europe...4ish billion.

Which they then caved on in one of the most one sided surrender documents since the munich agreement.

Canada should wait until the EU decides what they plan to do in terms of tariffs as to not be caught as the only one sticking their head out of the trench.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Canada should wait until the EU decides what they plan to do in terms of tariffs as to not be caught as the only one sticking their head out of the trench.

That's not very brave of us. Trump isn't threatening to invade Europe proper, just a territory with less people than Fredericton, NB. He is threatening to invade Canada. We need hammer the US with tariffs to show them we mean business. It may even simultaneously take the heat off of Greenland. Speaking of which, is Canada sending any troops as a show of solidarity with our European allies yet?