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fusilier
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What‘s this I hear about the Canadian Forces getting the Barrett .50 cal sniping rifle? Fact or fiction?
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fusilier
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I‘m a reg force Jimmy now so I don‘t get much on the the infantry side anymore, as much as I‘d like to.
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colgan
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I am pretty sure it is a Mc Millan 50 cal.It‘s hard to find info on the net about it, if anybody knows of any sites about it let me know 
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fusilier
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And exactly what trade are you?
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rcrman
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Try at this web site under weapons...
might be worth something to look at:
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/4895/
Grubby
Pro Patria
might be worth something to look at:
http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Bunker/4895/
Grubby
Pro Patria
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colgan
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Did not see it there grubby. Thanks any ways
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rcrman
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Colgan...sorry buddy it was worth a shot anyway...
Hey Doug how‘s the tour going overseas? Take care and have a safe tour man.
Hey Doug how‘s the tour going overseas? Take care and have a safe tour man.
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fusilier
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are you an int op or infantry?
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stosh
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FYI - they had an article in the Maple Leaf talking about the new .50 cal sniper rifle from McBros that the army has purchased. Here is the link...
http://www.dnd.ca/menu/maple/Vol_3/Vol3_18/army10-11.pdf
Cheers.
http://www.dnd.ca/menu/maple/Vol_3/Vol3_18/army10-11.pdf
Cheers.
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colgan
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Thanks stosh..thats good info
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During my Ph. II this summer, the sniper cell gave us a demo during which they displayed all their weapons, including the Parker-Hale .308 (Sniper Rifle 7.62mm C3), the McMillan M88 in .50 cal, and the Barrett Light Fifty... which is NOT light, as well as a C7 with a special night/thermal optics set used by the spotter.
So they have both weapons.
It was interesting to note that they are limited in the amount of shooting they can do with the .50‘s because of the overpressure caused by the shot, it can cause retina detachment! The kick of the rifles is something to be reckoned with, if I remember right the Barrett delivers a whopping 12 joules of recoil ... the snipers compared it to being hit with a baseball bat.
So they have both weapons.
It was interesting to note that they are limited in the amount of shooting they can do with the .50‘s because of the overpressure caused by the shot, it can cause retina detachment! The kick of the rifles is something to be reckoned with, if I remember right the Barrett delivers a whopping 12 joules of recoil ... the snipers compared it to being hit with a baseball bat.
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TOW2B
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Someone was pulling your leg the Barret kick about the same as a 12 gauge shotgun firing 3in Mags.It is stiff but not painful,you definatley don‘t want to put say 100 rnds down range in a day,but it is alot less than one would think.The McMillan ‘s recoil is dampened by its muzzle brake that vents the gas rearward and to the side which actually causes the rifle the jump forward,that takes some getting used to as well the muzzle blast is hard on your spotter.
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
have just been reading these postings with interest.
Below is a response I made to a question on 2nd battalion, The Parachute Regiment in Macedonia, about the 12 man sniper section of Patrols Company armed with ".338 calibre sniper weapons"
"It is the Accuracy International (see their ebsite) .338 (8.6mm) Super Magnum (also known as the Supra Lupua, 3000 fps) weapons system fitted with the Bausch & Lomb 10x42-power scope. Basically the L96A1design, only much better. Bolt action weapon, 5 round mag, 6.8kg (empty without telescope, 1268mm long. Its barrel is much heavier thean the L96. According to the blurb from AI it can be ordered in .300 Winchester and 7mm Remington Magnum calibres
This system gives first hit probability out to 1,100+ metres without the weight and recoil penalty of the .5 Browning cartridge was used by such 12.7mm weapons as the Barrett or the MacMillan.
The Royal Marines bought 44, and the regular army 73. Also is fitted in British service with the Simrad KN200 night optics.
I had the pleasure of firing it at the begining of the year, it is an absolutely unbelieviable piece of equipment. The .338 round has an incrediably flat trajectory, actual bullet is made out of tungston (A$15:80 each), and its kinetic energy is 85% of the .5 Browning on impact. It also comes in at one third of the price of the .5 Barrett M90A1.
A very old friend (served together at Infantry Centre) is the AI rep in AUST/NZ, he got both to buy the L96 in 7.62mm. But, for some reason the
AUST Army has a fixation with the Barrett, and will so buy. Weapon and ammunition more expensive, spare parts extremely expensive (firing pin $114,
and break after some 38-40 rounds!), big heavy awkward thing to carry, operator needs specialist training beyond that normally needed by a
marksman/sniper. Totally beyond me.
I must admit I‘m bias, in my youth I was a very good shot, and was still shooting on a regular basis until about ten years ago. In recent years only to the range with the Steyr. I put three rounds through on a known distance range at Holdsworthy, 100mm grouping, thats without zeroing! Could not believe it, recoil the same as the Steyr.
A very impressive piece of military equipment."
This American website, Snip Country may be of interest:
http://www.snipercountry.com/sniper.htm
Yours,
Jock in Sydney
have just been reading these postings with interest.
Below is a response I made to a question on 2nd battalion, The Parachute Regiment in Macedonia, about the 12 man sniper section of Patrols Company armed with ".338 calibre sniper weapons"
"It is the Accuracy International (see their ebsite) .338 (8.6mm) Super Magnum (also known as the Supra Lupua, 3000 fps) weapons system fitted with the Bausch & Lomb 10x42-power scope. Basically the L96A1design, only much better. Bolt action weapon, 5 round mag, 6.8kg (empty without telescope, 1268mm long. Its barrel is much heavier thean the L96. According to the blurb from AI it can be ordered in .300 Winchester and 7mm Remington Magnum calibres
This system gives first hit probability out to 1,100+ metres without the weight and recoil penalty of the .5 Browning cartridge was used by such 12.7mm weapons as the Barrett or the MacMillan.
The Royal Marines bought 44, and the regular army 73. Also is fitted in British service with the Simrad KN200 night optics.
I had the pleasure of firing it at the begining of the year, it is an absolutely unbelieviable piece of equipment. The .338 round has an incrediably flat trajectory, actual bullet is made out of tungston (A$15:80 each), and its kinetic energy is 85% of the .5 Browning on impact. It also comes in at one third of the price of the .5 Barrett M90A1.
A very old friend (served together at Infantry Centre) is the AI rep in AUST/NZ, he got both to buy the L96 in 7.62mm. But, for some reason the
AUST Army has a fixation with the Barrett, and will so buy. Weapon and ammunition more expensive, spare parts extremely expensive (firing pin $114,
and break after some 38-40 rounds!), big heavy awkward thing to carry, operator needs specialist training beyond that normally needed by a
marksman/sniper. Totally beyond me.
I must admit I‘m bias, in my youth I was a very good shot, and was still shooting on a regular basis until about ten years ago. In recent years only to the range with the Steyr. I put three rounds through on a known distance range at Holdsworthy, 100mm grouping, thats without zeroing! Could not believe it, recoil the same as the Steyr.
A very impressive piece of military equipment."
This American website, Snip Country may be of interest:
http://www.snipercountry.com/sniper.htm
Yours,
Jock in Sydney
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Ladies and Gentlemen, I don‘t known why but on reading this posting I find that parts of it had vanished. So am repeating
Ladies and Gentlemen,
have just been reading these postings with interest.
Below is a response I made to a question on 2nd battalion, The Parachute Regiment in Macedonia, about the 12 man sniper section of Patrols Company armed with ".338 calibre sniper weapons"
"It is the Accuracy International (see their website) .338 (8.6mm) Super Magnum (also known as the Supra Lupua, 3000 fps) weapons system fitted with the Bausch & Lomb 10x42-power scope. Basically the L96A1 design, only much better. Bolt action weapon, 5 round mag, 6.8kg (empty without telescope, 1268mm long. Its barrel is much heavier than the L96. According to the blurb from AI it can be ordered in .300 Winchester and 7mm Remington Magnum calibres
This system gives first hit probability out to 1,100+ metres without the weight and recoil penalty of the .5 Browning cartridge as used by such 12.7mm weapons as the Barrett or the MacMillan.
The Royal Marines bought 44, and the regular army 73. Also is fitted in British service with the Simrad KN200 night optics.
I had the pleasure of firing it at the begining of the year, it is an absolutely unbelievable piece of equipment. The .338 round has an incrediably flat trajectory, actual bullet is made out of tungston (A$15:80 each), and its kinetic energy is 85% of the .5 Browning on impact. It also comes in at one third of the price of the .5 Barrett M90A1.
A very old friend (served together at Infantry Centre) is the AI rep in AUST/NZ, he got both to buy the L96 in 7.62mm. But, for some reason the
AUST Army has a fixation with the Barrett M90A1, and will so buy. Weapon and ammunition much more expensive, spare parts extremely expensive (firing pin $114, and break after some 38-40 rounds!), big heavy awkward thing to carry, operator needs specialist training beyond that normally needed by a marksman/sniper. Totally beyond me.
I must admit I‘m bias, in my youth I was a very good shot, and was still shooting on a regular basis until about ten years ago. In recent years however only to the range with the Steyr, and 9mm Browning. I put three rounds through on a known distance range at Holdsworthy, 100mm grouping at 950 metres, thats without zeroing! Could not believe it, recoil the same as the Steyr.
A very impressive piece of military equipment."
This American website, Sniper Country may be of interest:
http://www.snipercountry.com/sniper.htm
Yours,
Jock in Sydney
Ladies and Gentlemen,
have just been reading these postings with interest.
Below is a response I made to a question on 2nd battalion, The Parachute Regiment in Macedonia, about the 12 man sniper section of Patrols Company armed with ".338 calibre sniper weapons"
"It is the Accuracy International (see their website) .338 (8.6mm) Super Magnum (also known as the Supra Lupua, 3000 fps) weapons system fitted with the Bausch & Lomb 10x42-power scope. Basically the L96A1 design, only much better. Bolt action weapon, 5 round mag, 6.8kg (empty without telescope, 1268mm long. Its barrel is much heavier than the L96. According to the blurb from AI it can be ordered in .300 Winchester and 7mm Remington Magnum calibres
This system gives first hit probability out to 1,100+ metres without the weight and recoil penalty of the .5 Browning cartridge as used by such 12.7mm weapons as the Barrett or the MacMillan.
The Royal Marines bought 44, and the regular army 73. Also is fitted in British service with the Simrad KN200 night optics.
I had the pleasure of firing it at the begining of the year, it is an absolutely unbelievable piece of equipment. The .338 round has an incrediably flat trajectory, actual bullet is made out of tungston (A$15:80 each), and its kinetic energy is 85% of the .5 Browning on impact. It also comes in at one third of the price of the .5 Barrett M90A1.
A very old friend (served together at Infantry Centre) is the AI rep in AUST/NZ, he got both to buy the L96 in 7.62mm. But, for some reason the
AUST Army has a fixation with the Barrett M90A1, and will so buy. Weapon and ammunition much more expensive, spare parts extremely expensive (firing pin $114, and break after some 38-40 rounds!), big heavy awkward thing to carry, operator needs specialist training beyond that normally needed by a marksman/sniper. Totally beyond me.
I must admit I‘m bias, in my youth I was a very good shot, and was still shooting on a regular basis until about ten years ago. In recent years however only to the range with the Steyr, and 9mm Browning. I put three rounds through on a known distance range at Holdsworthy, 100mm grouping at 950 metres, thats without zeroing! Could not believe it, recoil the same as the Steyr.
A very impressive piece of military equipment."
This American website, Sniper Country may be of interest:
http://www.snipercountry.com/sniper.htm
Yours,
Jock in Sydney
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boys the point of a .50cal is long range penetration of what ever the target may be the range is some 2000MTS to a point of a 50mm variant for trained spec opp 3000m at 100mm anything over that is depress and hope 4 the best! how ever the range can very on the round used standard ball round is listed above a/piecing round r 1 and a half as heavy as standard ball rounds due to the tunston tip and internal collar but will easy penetrate 400mm of concrete at 1000m or 50mm armour also u can use a/piecing incendiary rounds as used on many aircraft weapons platforms having served my self 4 6years now believe me when i say i have seen what damage 2 a human body it can do, and it ain't pretty anyone who says its a hunting rifle souled be reminded that this weapon was designed for one thing to penetrate light armour and as anti he-lo it was later found that the weapon could be used for sniping and adopted as such .also the barrnet was designed around a German late ww2 anti tank rifle the panzerbuchse 41. rheinmetall-borsig ag 20mm The design is almost the same only the barrnet is a semi and not single round bolt and the berrnet has recoil supprestion the recoil on all sniper rifles is reliant on the muzzle brake the bigger the better the (PzB41) was effective on all fronts other that the eastern front as i would not penetrate the armour of the T34 how ever was very effective against shermans and other allied light armour......so all in all the barrnet nice weapon but only in the look and range ! its only as good as the man behind it....give me a h&k psg any and every time 10mm effective at 800m no other sniper weapon can beat it at the moment
