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A Deeply Fractured US

brihard said:
Appears to be a legit video. Utterly irrelevant to the decision of officers to use force the day he was killed.
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True. But in a world where 'truth' can't be social nor believed, conspiracy theories abound. In reporting of the previous encounter between Pretti and ICE agents, there is notably the question of whether or not any of the agents were at both incidents. Prior behaviour may be irrelevant to the justification for the killing, but knowledge of previous encounter could be relevant to premeditation.
 
HavokFour said:
They beat him up, and drove away without detaining or arresting him. This is not the gotcha some (not here) are calling this, in fact it doesn't make ICE/DHS look any better.

Didn't pull his CCW out in this instance either.
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Or shoot him ten times in the back after disarming him.

If you’re gonna thump a dude, you better make the arrest. Seems they didn’t even ID him. Clearly he committed an offence that time. Sloppy police work.
 
brihard said:
Or shoot him ten times in the back after disarming him.

If you’re gonna thump a dude, you better make the arrest. Seems they didn’t even ID him. Clearly he committed an offence that time. Sloppy police work.
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You’re assuming they’re trained in police work in 47 days.
 
daftandbarmy said:
This is a whole new level of messed up...

https://twitter.com/x/status/2016622196941115603
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While disturbing, vile, idiotic . . . there's a long list of descriptives that could be used to indicate how wrong it is, it's actually not a whole 'new' level of messed up. We just hear about this kind of shit more because the perpetrators post about it themselves, or once taken to task their transgressions are endlessly discussed (occasionally accurately) on social media.

This CRNA should rightly be subject to some administrative or disciplinary measures by whatever licensing authority exists in her state. The 50 different authorities down there don't necessarily function the same way as the 'colleges' do in Canada or even the same as other states. Depending on location, direct political input into their decisions are not unheard of. I did wonder if there had been any incidents of clinicians on the other side of the political spectrum who made comments about injuring (or providing substandard care) to patients who may disagree with their political or social views. Or perhaps I should say "publicized" incidents - I've run across a few during my years in the health care sphere who were less than circumspect in keeping their opinions to themselves. But thankfully it is far more difficult to deny care in Canada, than in the USA (though there will probably be comments about poor performance of Canada's health care system).
 
Jarnhamar said:
That's a pretty good kick.
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He didn't just kick a tail light. He spit at the agents. Window up or down, he still left his DNA all over the vehicle. Carrying a firearm while committing a felony, obstruction and more.

So no, Alex appears to have kicked a tail light, isn't an accurate statement. Nor does it convey the seriousness or criminality of his actions.
 
Fishbone Jones said:
He didn't just kick a tail light. He spit at the agents. Window up or down, he still left his DNA all over the vehicle. Carrying a firearm while committing a felony, obstruction and more.

So no, Alex appears to have kicked a tail light, isn't an accurate statement. Nor does it convey the seriousness or criminality of his actions.
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Clearly, kicking a car deserves ten 9mm rounds pumped into your back.
 
Fishbone Jones said:
He didn't just kick a tail light. He spit at the agents. Window up or down, he still left his DNA all over the vehicle. Carrying a firearm while committing a felony, obstruction and more.

So no, Alex appears to have kicked a tail light, isn't an accurate statement. Nor does it convey the seriousness or criminality of his actions.
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Nothing in that earlier interaction was relevant to the subsequent interaction from a week or more later where they disarmed him and then two officers pumped ten or eleven rounds into his back.
 
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