A Deeply Fractured US

[Halifax Tar]

Sure. But like everything else they have to turn it into some culture war nonsense with two lesbos in a Prius dying of heat. It could have been an email.....

By the way start-stop doesn't turn off your AC. And hybrids don't work like that.....

Also like doesn't change anything for anybody who already has it on their car....

I don't believe I said anything about lesbians or Prius'.

I simply agree with deletion of auto start/stop and EGR systems on diesels.

 

[ytz]

I don't believe I said anything about lesbians or Prius'.

I simply agree with deletion of auto start/stop and EGR systems on diesels.

I was talking about the ad attached to their announcement of you click the link.

 

[mariomike]

I've stayed away from hi-tech stuff - it's just another thing to break that costs a lot to fix and - more likely then not - makes it impossible not to fix it.

As a pedestrian, vehicles with high vertical front ends get my attention.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

?????????

 

[ytz]

As a pedestrian, vehicles with high vertical front ends get my attention.

Among many reasons why American auto is getting killed globally.....

 

[mariomike]

?????????

Ever seen someone hit by one?????????

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Ever seen someone hit by one?????????

Yes. Unfortunately. A cyclist in Montreal and I acted as on-scene first aid person until the first responders could arrive.

But I am trying to see how your point relates to the high-tech stuff in any car or vehicle, and in particular to the one at issue, which is the start-stop system to cut down on fuel consumption.

 

[mariomike]

Among many reasons why American auto is getting killed globally.....

You may have a point. Saw this from Europe,

 

[ytz]

You literally can't fit those giant vehicles in so much of Asia and Europe. And Big 3 seem to have forgotten how to make smaller vehicles profitably.

 

[mariomike]

But I am trying to see how your point relates to the high-tech stuff in any car or vehicle, and in particular to the one at issue, which is the start-stop system to cut down on fuel consumption.

Wasn't aware thread was limited to start-stop. My bad.

I thought safety, and international sales of American vehicles might also be of interest to job protection and the economy to stay competitive.in foreign markets.

 

[mariomike]

You literally can't fit those giant vehicles in so much of Asia and Europe. And Big 3 seem to have forgotten how to make smaller vehicles profitably.

Even in the severe traffic congestion of a large city, that might be true. At least, from what I have seen.


Not a firefighter, but I've seen firefighter trucks in Europe and Asia. They seem much more maneuverable . And, from what I understand, are equally efficient.

 

[FJAG]

You may have a point. Saw this from Europe,

Ahh! So that's why every time someone on the highway is following me with only a half a car length between us when I'm already doing 10kph over the speed limit it's a pickup truck. The hood distorts their ability to judge distance.

 

[PrairieFella]

You literally can't fit those giant vehicles in so much of Asia and Europe. And Big 3 seem to have forgotten how to make smaller vehicles profitably.

Whats crazy is they cut their profitable ones like Cruze and Focus because they werent profitable enough. They still turned a tidy profit but I guess shareholders prefer the short term over maintaining global competitiveness long term.

 

[mariomike]

Ahh! So that's why every time someone on the highway is following me with only a half a car length between us when I'm already doing 10kph over the speed limit it's a pickup truck. The hood distorts their ability to judge distance.

Whether on foot, or behind the wheel, I try to stay out of their way.

 

[FJAG]

Whether on foot, or behind the wheel, I try to stay out of their way.

Strange. I'm a Subaru Forester owner - my third one. (No lesbian jokes please) I wanted a mini SUV and got it. My 2010 was built close to the ground with a low hood because of its flat Boxer engine. The 2017 was bigger and taller especially in the hood. My 2025 is bigger again and is much more like a regular SUV now. The engine is the same 2.5L Boxer (but a lot more powerful while better on fuel economy). There's space under the hood so it's more a matter of design than necessity to increase the size of the front end.

 

[Good2Golf]

As a pedestrian, vehicles with high vertical front ends get my attention.

Ahh! So that's why every time someone on the highway is following me with only a half a car length between us when I'm already doing 10kph over the speed limit it's a pickup truck. The hood distorts their ability to judge distance.

I was towing my little utility trailer and got rear ended at a red light by a (penile compensating) pickup truck driver who told the police they didn’t see my trailer. It seems safety can be an afterthought in many N.A. Brand vehicles.

 

[PPCLI Guy]

That's less about ideological control than that just maintaining old fashioned elitism though. How many senior bureaucrats or GOFOs do we have in Canada who weren't educated at a T20 school or RMC?

I know a few....