Accident creating distress or charges?

[munky99999]

Say for example. You're a pilot and your given orders to destroy a building. You destroy it. But later on you find out that you had just killed hundreds of innocent people.

While these sort of situations probably don't occur much. But if it did happen. Would there be any sort of charges against the pilot who did this?

If the pilot did do this? would the average pilot ever feel bad and stop flying because they are distressed over what they did?

Personally I'm more interested in humanitarian aid and such with cargo planes. But would definitely jump at the chance at flying a A-10, f-22, f-117, or f-35.

I cant see it being logical to going to fighter class at the moment. it would probably be 5 years until i were able to fly the f-18. and then 5 years later they decommission them. Then I guess you would be retrained in the replacement.

 

[old medic]

Personally I'm more interested in humanitarian aid and such with cargo planes. But would definitely jump at the chance at flying a A-10, f-22, f-117, or f-35.

Wrong Country

 

[Korus]

Everyone reacts differently to any given situation, and no one knows how they'll react until they're actually put in that situation, so you can't say what an 'average' pilot would do.

Heck, even Maverick stopped flying for a while after Goose died in an accident. But, he got back on the horse and proceeded to shoot down several Mig-28-T-38s, after which he won the respect of Iceman and they all lived happily ever after.

 

[munky99999]

Wrong Country

actually hasnt canada invested money into the JSF f-35 program? and plan to replace the cf-18 with the f-35?

and yes i know the other planes we dont have. But in the perhaps chance that we were to buy some and refurbish them. I would definately love to fly them. Then again I havent flown anything yet 

Everyone reacts differently to any given situation, and no one knows how they'll react until they're actually put in that situation, so you can't say what an 'average' pilot would do.

Heck, even Maverick stopped flying for a while after Goose died in an accident. But, he got back on the horse and proceeded to shoot down several Mig-28-T-38s, after which he won the respect of Iceman and they all lived happily ever after.

actually. The tv show stargate atlantis(season 9:ep 12). Colonel Mitchell was in the middle east and got permission to fire. Right after he fires they come back on the radio saying not to fire. He ended up killing some innocent people. But it really bummed him out.

If i were in the situation i probably wouldnt have really cared. But would definately care if it resulted in charges of some kind.

 

[Korus]

If i were in the situation i probably wouldnt have really cared. But would definately care if it resulted in charges of some kind.

You probably should care..

 

[WannaBeFlyer]

munky's been doing some soul searching lately...

Heck, even Maverick stopped flying for a while after Goose died in an accident. But, he got back on the horse and proceeded to shoot down several Mig-28-T-38s, after which he won the respect of Iceman and they all lived happily ever after.

;D

 

[munky99999]

munky's been doing some soul searching lately...

hey i spend my entire day doing nothing. what else can i do? >

You probably should care..

The way i would see it. What's really difference between killing bad guys and innocents? When its techincally not my fault. I wouldnt have known they were innocent. The split second after launching the missle, when i knew they were enemies, i was feeling fine and good. Then i find they are innocent. Nothing logically really changed. So they are innocent. I cant stop the missle. Sure its a bad thing and all. But really i should be feeling bad for killing in general. Not only if they are innocent or not. Then again i wouldnt feel bad about killing at all. Its what i was trained to do.

then again in reality. If and when i do the pilot thing. I'll be choosing multi-engine over jet.

 

[WannaBeFlyer]

The way i would see it. What's really difference between killing bad guys and innocents?

Then again i wouldnt feel bad about killing at all

Good luck with the interview!

 

[munky99999]

Good luck with the interview!

it is a hypothetical situation that you cant help to fix. Sure you can feel bad. But letting it actually "feel bad" in the sense that it makes you less effective isn't great.

I should probably mention that I'm stoic. Not so much related to the school invented over 2000 years ago. Rather comparable to Vulcans from star trek. You feel the emotions. But don't let them control you.

Like in that situation.
I would feel bad that i had just killed innocent people. But i wouldn't let it control me. By feeling so bad that it haunts you. Or in the Tom Cruise-Top Gun situation. Be unable to fly because a friend died. But don't misunderstand. Its not suppressing it. You simply place it aside. You know what needs to be done, get it done. Deal with the problem some other time. If you cant deal with it on your own, speak with friends and family or a psychologist of sorts.

The difference is. Mitchell and Cruise are having troubles and want to put everything on hold. My way is you feel it. But you don't put everything on hold you live on.

Also.

The way i would see it. What's really difference between killing bad guys and innocents?

You'd have to agree. fundamentally. You are still killing human being either way.

 

[Sheerin]

If you want to see an example of a pilot who didn't care so a search for Harry Schmidt.

 

[scoutfinch]

I can only say that I am shocked that someone is incapable of discerning a moral or ethical difference in this scenario.  That being said, I guess I should be more concerned that his guiding principles are seemingly shaped by such pop culture classics as Star Trek and Top Gun.

I fear that we have our own little Schmidt on our hands here.  How charming. 

 

[Enzo]

So long as I'm not on the ground below you Munk. :threat:

You beat me to it Sheerin. 

Munk. How old are you? I'm not saying that speaking about death as if you were ordering a pizza is a warning sign, but good luck with the interview when it comes. Uh, also, about quoting sci-fi and comparing yourself to a Vulcan... Well, can you see why that's going to raise some eyebrows? :

The CF-18 is going to be in service for another decade at least. I wouldn't worry about flying an F-22/F35 anytime soon, focus on your grades, meet some girls and get outside to blow the stink off ya once in awhile eh.

Finally, your orders are to be followed and by doing so you should be able to withstand scrutiny for any unfortunate accidents that may arise. Deviating from those orders is a choice you'd have to make at the time, then you're going to have to account for your actions regardless of the casualties involved. Either way, you'll have to live with yourself and there isn't a template for that.

 

[WannaBeFlyer]

You'd have to agree. fundamentally. You are still killing human being either way.

I stand corrected. You will have no problems with the coping with stress questions during your interview.

 

[muskrat89]

I've seen enough.

Munky..... umm, never mind.  :