Active Shooter / Hostile Event ( ASHE ) prevention / response

[Booter]

The Quebec Green Party Leader waded in on Social Media on the actions of the female officer. He got slapped hard. He said she should have been better trained.
I would hazard to guess that you'd need JTF2 level training and practice to NOT react like she did to the bystander. Very tragic and I hope she gets all the counselling required (which I doubt will be enough).

you do enough HRT training and you’ll see a dove or a bystander catch one….under a lot less pressure than this.

I feel for her. Because there is lots of good stuff there.

In tactics we kinda talk about the idea of negative outcome bias where because at the end of the day the incident is horrific that it means we did something wrong- this is a human outcome that (in a grand totality-30 000 ft perspective) would have been orders of magnitude worse if they didn’t stop it when they did.

This is a real and honest result of an active shooter event.

 

[Jarnhamar]

you do enough HRT training and you’ll see a dove or a bystander catch one….under a lot less pressure than this.

It's funny reading the usual expert social media commentary about training and tactics from peoples chairs. I can hold my own running around playing gunfighter weenie and the first thing I thought when I seen the video was oh damn she probably shot that guy. Second thing was thinking damn I probably would have shot him too.

The civilian popping around the corner like that catching her off guard is like one of those annoying scenarios in CQB where the unarmed person jumps out to scare someone on purpose. It's just tragically perfect timing.

 

[brihard]

It's funny reading the usual expert social media commentary about training and tactics from peoples chairs. I can hold my own running around playing gunfighter weenie and the first thing I thought when I seen the video was oh damn she probably shot that guy. Second thing was thinking damn I probably would have shot him too.

The civilian popping around the corner like that catching her off guard is like one of those annoying scenarios in CQB where the unarmed person jumps out to scare someone on purpose. It's just tragically perfect timing.

Mm hm. that about aligns with my thinking.

 

[Booter]

100% fellas.

 

[Haggis]

It's funny reading the usual expert social media commentary about training and tactics from peoples chairs. I can hold my own running around playing gunfighter weenie and the first thing I thought when I seen the video was oh damn she probably shot that guy. Second thing was thinking damn I probably would have shot him too.

The civilian popping around the corner like that catching her off guard is like one of those annoying scenarios in CQB where the unarmed person jumps out to scare someone on purpose. It's just tragically perfect timing.

We run a lot of scenario based training where I work. Even with Tier 1 SOF level training and preparation (which most LEAs cannot attain), we have a limited amount of control over what we do, and far less over what the badger or dove does in response to our actions. There will always be someone out there. good or bad, that hands you a "hold my beer and watch this" moment.