Active Shooter / Hostile Event ( ASHE ) prevention / response

[brihard]

The discussion stemmed from the Mom's PAL allegedly being expired. Maybe those posts should stay while the ones discussing licensing in general can be moved.

Yup, absolutely.

 

[Jarnhamar]

You wont get me to agree that liscensing and renewals is a step to far for firearms ownership.

I'm with you here. There's always the component that the government will tax everything they can, but having a licencing and regulatory demands attached to potentially dangerous activities is important. Driving, shooting, sky diving, food vendor, day car, and so on. Considering the amount of damage (and death) that gets caused by people who are unlicensed and still own/drive vehicles, there might even be an argument to make licensing part and parcel with ownership, like firearms.

 

[Jarnhamar]

The minute the news broke that the shooter in BC was transgender it was obviously to cause a lot of anti-trans rhetoric.
[If it would have been a straight white male shooting up a school that would have kicked off white males are violent! rhetoric.]

This incident touches on the argument/debate by Danielle Smith et el about trans children and safety. A number of other progressive countries similar to Canada have moved towards a stricter, more monitored approach to aiding them with that they're going though. It's hard to say if that would made a difference here but I hope all the factors at play in this shooting get thoroughly investigated (with a view to preventing it in the future).

Hopefully the policies regarding firearms getting returned to homes with mentally unstable individuals living there gets reviewed too.

This is just my own bias but it seemed to me the RCMP put more emphasis on the firearms than needed. Whether it was a pistol, or rifle, talking about the rifle being modified (like, putting on a sling? foregrip?), and then emphasizing the firearms used weren't previously seized and returned by them. Sort of felt like they were rushed to point out this wasn't their fault.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I'm with you here. There's always the component that the government will tax everything they can, but having a licencing and regulatory demands attached to potentially dangerous activities is important. Driving, shooting, sky diving, food vendor, day car, and so on. Considering the amount of damage (and death) that gets caused by people who are unlicensed and still own/drive vehicles, there might even be an argument to make licensing part and parcel with ownership, like firearms.

You lost me.

 

[Jarnhamar]

You lost me.

I'm agreeing with this.

You wont get me to agree that licensing and renewals is a step to far for firearms ownership.

 

[Eaglelord17]

This is just my own bias but it seemed to me the RCMP put more emphasis on the firearms than needed. Whether it was a pistol, or rifle, talking about the rifle being modified (like, putting on a sling? foregrip?), and then emphasizing the firearms used weren't previously seized and returned by them. Sort of felt like they were rushed to point out this wasn't their fault.

I suspect the RCMP deflection is based on the disaster that was the Nova Scotia shooting.

-failed to investigate reports that the shooter owned illegal firearms
-systemic failures in how they policed the area, lack of organization and coordination coupled with poorly prepared officers
-whatever the near tragedy that the shooting at the firehall was

For this shooting they are trying to stay ahead of it and prevent themselves from taking any blame whether or not it is deserved.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Probably time to split a bunch of replies from active shooter back over to gun control thread?

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Army.ca Staff