Advice for women on BMQ and other courses [MERGED]

[Edward Campbell]

I wish there was some way to put the last two comments, Technoviking's and Vern's, in a separate "sticky" to which everyone would be referred every time this silly question is asked.

Great posts, folks! 

 

[Springroll]

You'll never catch me arguing that ALL females COULD be employed as infanteers for example, but you won't catch me saying that about all men either. But, if they are willing, then they should be allowed to try. And, if in trying, are found to be physically capable and able, then they along with the men found capable and able should carry on as per normal. If not, then I hope the door doesn't slam either their female or male *** on their way out.

Amen!! This is a fantastic post and echo's my thoughts and feelings as well.
I don't care if you are a man or a woman. If you can do the job, then do it to the best of your ability!

 

[cupper]

Here is a shining example of a woman who can perform her duties in combat just as well as a man. Unfortunately she cannot hold a combat position in the US Army.

The powers that be still do not believe that women should be placed in combat roles. Even though they have been in combat roles by circumstances since 2003, if not earlier.

http://www2.insidenova.com/news/2012/mar/10/dale-city-woman-honored-saving-lives-iraq-ar-1755837/


Dale City woman honored for saving lives in Iraq

Sgt. Monica Beltran doesn’t re­ally like to be reminded about all she has accomplished in her Na­tional Guard career. She’d much prefer that others be recognized for what they’ve done.

But facts can be pesky things. And the facts are these: Beltran, 26, of Dale City, is the second most decorated female soldier in the entire National Guard and is the first women to ever receive a Purple Heart and Bronze Star with Valor.

She received the honors for ac­tions during a firefight in Iraq on Oct. 26, 2005, when she is credit­ed with saving more than 50 lives by laying down suppressive fire.

 

[jrst]

So I have been lapping up information from these boards while waiting to hear back from the Reserve unit I applied to, and I've seen a couple of mentions that implied women aren't held up to the same standard as men during PT.  I know the requirements for the Expres test are different, but does that hold true through training?  For example, I saw one post that mentioned if your squad were told to do 100 push ups it's not ok to drop out- unless you were a woman.  Is that true?  What is the expectation?

 

[211RadOp]

As a Tp WO, I expect the female members of my Tp to do the same PT as the male members.

 

[F3m5h3p]

As a Tp WO, I expect the female members of my Tp to do the same PT as the male members.

Good to know!
:nod:

 

[2010newbie]

In my BMOQ there was one girl that was 5' tall and 90 lbs soaking wet. If anything she had to be in better shape because she still had to clear the obstacle course in her FFO and perform all the same PT tasks that we did.

 

[jrst]

Good to know, thanks

 

[OneMissionataTime]

There was a young lady on another platoon a few years back that I knew, who weighed about 120 pounds but could ****ing ruck like there was no other. The more weight we piled on her, ( Ammo, water, a sandpack) the harder she went. Most of the guys had dropped out after 15km with about FFO (Flak included) and maybe 80 pounds. Moral of the story is you only go as hard as your heart can take you and when your young and healthy.. sky is the limit  ;D.

 

[vonGarvin]

There once was this girl and she, like, carried a machine gun and got a commendation for it.


derp


If you are in the Army, you will have to complete the BFT (google it), which is the same standard for men as it is for women, irrespective of age.

If you have to do the CF ExPres Test (google it), then there are varying standards based on age and gender. 

 

[PMedMoe]

I think the only difference in the CF Expres test should be the grip test standard, everything else should be the same.

So you achieved the same scores on the ExPres as males in your age group?  Just curious.......

 

[Eye In The Sky]

I think the only difference in the CF Expres test should be the grip test standard, everything else should be the same.

I can't decide which one to use so....

:trainwreck:

:deadhorse:

 

[HopefulA.B.]

Does the army have a glass ceiling for women?

Website so you know what a glass ceiling is. It's a Socialogical term: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-glass-ceiling.htm

 

[Maxadia]

I would think only if you let it....

 

[jeffb]

Does the army have a glass ceiling for women?

Website so you know what a glass ceiling is. It's a Socialogical term: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-glass-ceiling.htm

No, it does not. While it is true that there are few female flag officers, I suspect this has more to do with the low percentage of women in the occupations that tend to produce the most flag officers, namely, the combat arms. At 2 RCHA there soon 3 of the 5 Bty's will be commanded by women.

A quick search provided the bio's of the four female flag officers:

http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dsa-dns/sa-ns/ab/sobv-vbos-eng.asp?mAction=View&mBiographyID=297
http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dsa-dns/sa-ns/ab/sobv-vbos-eng.asp?mAction=View&mBiographyID=116
http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dsa-dns/sa-ns/ab/sobv-vbos-eng.asp?mAction=View&mBiographyID=782
http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dsa-dns/sa-ns/ab/sobv-vbos-eng.asp?mAction=View&mBiographyID=605

 

[Eye In The Sky]

Flag Officer usually denotes Navy, General Officer Army & AF.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Major-General Whitecross is at the highest position that one can achieve in her engineering branch.  Rear-Admiral Bennet is in the highest position a reservist can achieve in the whole military, and knowing her, I would not bet against her finding a way to go one better somehow. So much for glass ceiling.

Also, of late, we have had two of our "Commander-in-chief" that were women. They are called Governor-General.

And our actual head of all armed forces is a woman: Her Majesty QE-II. Canada has already stated that it would support the current attempts, in England, at modernizing the rules of succession so that women descendants would take their place in the line of succession on par with their male brethren.

 

[Good2Golf]

Major-General Whitecross is at the highest position that one can achieve in her engineering branch.  Rear-Admiral Bennet is in the highest position a reservist can achieve in the whole military, and knowing her, I would not bet against her finding a way to go one better somehow. So much for glass ceiling.

And BGen Jaeger is in the highest position of leadership in the CF Health Services.

 

[Cansky]

BGen Jagar has moved on from Surgeon General about 2years ago to a position in Kabul.  Current Surgeon General is Commador Jung who retires this summer.

 

[Scott]

Does the army have a glass ceiling for women?

Website so you know what a glass ceiling is. It's a Socialogical term: http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-glass-ceiling.htm

Is this a subtle troll? Because it smells like it.