Alberta government thread

[QV]

Oh and NWC again

Alberta invokes notwithstanding clause on trio of transgender laws

Alberta invokes notwithstanding clause on trio of transgender laws

The Alberta government has invoked the Charter’s notwithstanding clause for the second time in less than a month in this case to protect from legal challenge a trio of laws affecting transgender youth and adults.

www.ctvnews.ca

Alberta joins NZ, USA, UK, Norway, Finland, and Sweden in preventing the use of puberty blockers on minors. In Alberta's case kids under 16.

Are you offended by that?

 

[MrWhyt]

Are you offended by that?

I'm a fan of small government, I don't know why you big government types want the state to start looking in children's underwear,

 

[MilEME09]

Alberta joins NZ, USA, UK, Norway, Finland, and Sweden in preventing the use of puberty blockers on minors. In Alberta's case kids under 16.

Are you offended by that?

sorry did you assume I was? I am more offended by the NWC being used, especially when these laws are before the courts. the AB gov is making a mockery of the rule of law, and checks and balances.

the only part of these laws I find dumb is that my daughter now has to prove her gender, but my sons don't, not just in professional sports, but any sports

 

[QV]

I'm a fan of small government, I don't know why you big government types want the state to start looking in children's underwear,

I'm also a fan of small government.

I'm also a fan of protecting minors from being influenced by ideologically driven adults to make irreversible life altering decisions. They can make those on their own when they're old enough.

sorry did you assume I was? I am more offended by the NWC being used, especially when these laws are before the courts. the AB gov is making a mockery of the rule of law, and checks and balances.

the only part of these laws I find dumb is that my daughter now has to prove her gender, but my sons don't, not just in professional sports, but any sports

I'm also glad my daughters can compete in sports against other females only. Notice how this one always only went one way? Trans (biologically female) were never fighting to compete in men's sports. Weird.

The NWC is a part of the Charter. Without it, the Charter never would exist today as we know it, or at all.

 

[MrWhyt]

I'm also a fan of protecting minors from being influenced by ideologically driven adults to make irreversible life altering decisions. They can make those on their own when they're old enough.

just sounds like the nanny state telling parents what medical treatments their children can or can not have.

 

[MilEME09]

I'm also glad my daughters can compete in sports against other females only. Notice how this one always only went one way? Trans (biologically female) were never fighting to compete in men's sports. Weird.

Yet it's happening, Trans-men face fewer barriers and challenges to compete in men's sports, notable examples include Lia Thomas, Fallon Fox, Chris Mosier. It's estimated less than 1% of college level athletes are trans, and in the US 3% of all high school athletes are. Of this few than 1000 are trans men. So they are out there, but politicians, and social groups seem to only have issue with trans women.

Look if you are going to restrict trans persons from playing in sports, fine, but the law should be applied equally, the fact its not is what lead to court challenges.

 

[QV]

Lia Thomas was born a male, transitioned, and later competed in womens events. Do you not understand the physical differences between people having XX vs XY chromosomes? It is significant.

For a sport like swimming the implications are limited to dominating the sport, for sports like hockey, boxing, etc, the implications are dominating and also seriously injuring the non-trans competitors. Is that fair? No. Do we change all the rules for less than 1% of people? No.

Nobody is banning trans people from sports, they just compete in the sport to which their chromosomes align.

Not everyone can be happy all the time.

 

[MilEME09]

Nobody is banning trans people from sports, they just compete in the sport to which their chromosomes align.

So again why only target trans women then?