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All Things Cuba (Castro, politics, etc.)

NL_engineer said:
Can you explain how cell phones are a danger (and don't get into driving with them, as some the Cuban drivers I've seen make Canada's worst look good  ::))

In most of the developing world, the cell phone is the only phone people use/have seen.

Since cellular signals are routed through centralized infrastructure, it is quite easy to do things like track people's location (triangulating the location of a cell phone between cell towers predates GPS enabled cell phones), and of course the secret police can easily monitor conversations and data transfers by tapping into the cellular network and public internet cafe's. Reputed American surveillance systems like "Echelon" and "Carnivore" are trying to catch up with the all encompassing secret police techniques developed by the Cheka starting in the October Revolution, and adopted by all the various satellites since.

Cell phones and laptop computers provide lots of technical information to people who want to observe the network, and anyone silly enough to bring their personal laptop to Cuba, China or other socialist paradises would be well advised in my view to do a "Format C" when they get home and do a clean reinstall of all software. (Same advice for LINUX and Mac OS or OSX based computers too, by the way.) If you store a lot of data on your cell phone/Blackberry/iPhone, best get a fresh SIM card installed before you arrive on their sunny shores.
 
Greymatters said:
Its very annoying to be driving along a road come up to a bridge and almost drive into a river because the locals have taken most of the wooden bridge ties for personal use...

Ayup, that's what the local utilities are counting on - jam so much creosote & / or Pole oil into the wood that it oozes it's fluids AND make it soo unpleasant that they won't bother to chop em down...

- and this has happened in Sudan, Turkey, Lybia, Iran.  (from personal experience)
 
Greymatters said:
I dont recall seeing a single DVD player, or even VCR player...

...Reference black market stuff like CDs, DVDs etc, it might be available in underground black markets and in the homes of the 'upper class', but none of that was for sale at any public markets...

Well you'll be seeing a lot more of them in Cuba especially with this latest development:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080402/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cuba_consumer_goods

Castro is just nearly 30 years behind Deng Xiaoping when Deng first opened up mainland China to trade with Western nations as well as capitalism with an "open door policy" in the early 1980s.

Castro reforms: DVDs, farms for Cubans
By WILL WEISSERT, Associated Press Writer
1 minute ago

Cubans snapped up DVD players, motorbikes and pressure cookers for the first time Tuesday as Raul Castro's new government loosened controls on consumer goods and invited private farmers to plant tobacco, coffee and other crops on unused state land.

Combined with other reforms announced in recent days, the measures suggest real changes are being driven by the new president, who vowed when he took over from his brother Fidel to remove some of the more irksome limitations on the daily lives of Cubans.

Analysts wondered how far the communist government is willing to go.


"Cuban people can't survive on the salaries people are paying them. Average men and women have been screaming that at the top of their lungs for many years," said Felix Masud-Piloto, director of the Center for Latino Research at DePaul University. "Now after many years, the government is listening."

Many of the shoppers filling stores Tuesday lamented the fact that the goods are unaffordable on the government salaries they earn. But that didn't stop them from lining up to see electronic gadgets previously available only to foreigners and companies.

"They should have done this a long time ago," one man said as he left a store with a red and silver electric motorbike that cost $814. The Chinese-made bikes can be charged with an electric cord and had been barred for general sale because officials feared a strain on the power grid.

On Monday, the Tourism Ministry announced that any Cuban with enough money can now stay in luxury hotels and rent cars, doing away with restrictions that made ordinary people feel like second-class citizens. And last week, Cuba said citizens will be able to get cell phones legally in their own names, a luxury long reserved for the lucky few.

The land initiative, however, potentially could put more food on the table of all Cubans and bring in hard currency from exports of tobacco, coffee and other products, providing the cash inflows needed to spur a new consumer economy.

Government television said 51 percent of arable land is underused or fallow, and officials are transferring some of it to individual farmers and associations representing small, private producers. According to official figures, cooperatives already control 35 percent of arable land — and produce 60 percent of the island's agricultural output.


"Everyone who wants to produce tobacco will be given land to produce tobacco, and it will be the same with coffee," said Orlando Lugo, president of Cuba's national farmers association.

The change is a sharp contrast to the early days of Cuba's revolution, when the government forced or encouraged private farmers to turn their land over to the state or form government-controlled collective farms. But without more details, it was difficult to tell the significance of program, which began last year but was announced only this week.

"If this means all land that's not being used, like for private farmers, cooperatives and state farms, is available, that's positive," said Carmelo Mesa-Lago, a Cuba economics expert at the University of Pittsburgh. "Assuming, of course, they have the freedom to sow and sell whatever they want."

Lines formed before the doors opened at the Galerias Paseos shopping center on Havana's famed seaside Malecon boulevard, and shoppers wasted little time once inside. But there was no sign yet of computers and microwaves, highly anticipated items that clerks across Havana insisted would appear soon on store shelves, with desktop computers retailing for around $650.

Cuba's communist system was founded on promoting social and economic equality, but that doesn't mean Cubans can't have DVD players, said Mercedes Orta, who rushed to gawk at the new products.

"Socialism has nothing to do with living comfortably," she said.

Lines outside electronics boutiques and specialty shops are common in Cuba because guards limit how many people can be inside at a time. But waits were longer and aisles more packed than usual at Havana's best-known stores.

"DVDs are over there, down that aisle," an employee in a white short-sleeved shirt repeated over and over as shoppers wandered into La Copa, an electronics and grocery store across from the Copacabana Hotel.

"Very good! DVD players on sale for everybody," exclaimed Clara, an elderly woman peering at a black JVC console. "Of course nobody has the money to buy them." Like many Cubans, Clara chatted freely but wouldn't give her full name to a foreign reporter.

Government stores offered all products in convertible pesos — hard currency worth 24 times the regular pesos state employees get paid. The government controls well over 90 percent of the economy and the average state salary is just 408 regular pesos a month, about $19.50.

Still, most Cubans have access to at least some convertible pesos thanks to jobs with foreign firms or in tourism, or cash sent by relatives living in the United States.

Graciela Jaime, a 68-year-old retired clothes factory employee, complained that widespread corruption and greed has created a class of rich Cubans.

"Everyone wants to spend money and that is what's happening," she said. "If everything they earned went to the state like it should, there wouldn't be as much corruption as there is."


Associated Press writer Katherine Corcoran in Mexico City contributed to this report.
 
Let's face it, the US could drop the embargo tomorrow.
Cuba could/would be flooded US tourists AND US consumer goods.  Given that their economy would be completely unable to deal with the situation, it wouldn't take too long for the Gov't to colapse...

But the US Administration won't do it.
 
Thucydides said:
Since cellular signals are routed through centralized infrastructure, it is quite easy to do things like track people's location (triangulating the location of a cell phone between cell towers predates GPS enabled cell phones), and of course the secret police can easily monitor conversations and data transfers by tapping into the cellular network and public internet cafe's. Reputed American surveillance systems like "Echelon" and "Carnivore" are trying to catch up with the all encompassing secret police techniques developed by the Cheka starting in the October Revolution, and adopted by all the various satellites since.

Cell phones and laptop computers provide lots of technical information to people who want to observe the network, and anyone silly enough to bring their personal laptop to Cuba, China or other socialist paradises would be well advised in my view to do a "Format C" when they get home and do a clean reinstall of all software. (Same advice for LINUX and Mac OS or OSX based computers too, by the way.) If you store a lot of data on your cell phone/Blackberry/iPhone, best get a fresh SIM card installed before you arrive on their sunny shores.

It is also one of the simpler status symbol tools that can be operated by even the most uneducated sheepherder...
 
Cuba has marked the 50th anniversary of the revolution that brought Fidel Castro to power, creating a communist state on the United States' doorstep.

President Raul Castro, who took over from Fidel last year, spoke from below the same balcony where his brother declared victory on 1 January 1959.

He predicted the revolution would survive another 50 years.

The festivities have been muted as Cuba struggles with big economic challenges and the aftermath of three hurricanes.

Reacting to the anniversary, a White House spokesman said the US continued to seek freedom for the Cuban people.

Series of concerts

Addressing the nation from the south-eastern city of Santiago de Cuba, Raul Castro said the next 50 years "will also be of permanent struggle".


Raul Castro speaks in Santiago de Cuba, Cuba, 1 January 2009

In pictures: Cuba anniversary
"With the firm promise that in this land we can always exclaim with pride that glory to our heroes and martyrs. Long live Fidel, long live the revolution, long live free Cuba!" said President Castro.

He was speaking from the very place where his elder brother proclaimed victory after the US-backed dictator Fulgencio Batista had fled the country 40 years ago.

He spoke proudly of the 1959 revolution that transformed the Caribbean island into a communist state 145 km (90 miles) from US shores, but warned the country should remain vigilant.

"The enemy will never cease to be aggressive, treacherous and dominant," he said.

"It is time to reflect on the future, on the next 50 years when we shall continue to struggle incessantly.

"I'm not trying to scare anyone, this is the truth," he added.

A series of free concerts had been planned across the island, but the authorities said it was not the time for lavish celebrations after the nation suffered one of the most difficult financial years since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Towering presence

The frail health of Fidel Castro has also dampened the mood of anniversary celebrations, says the BBC's Michael Voss in Havana.

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The 82-year-old has not been seen in public since undergoing major surgery almost 18 months ago. There was no pre-recorded message on state television on New Year's Eve nor one of his regular newspaper editorials to mark the event.

Nonetheless, he remains a towering presence in Cuba, even in the background.

Raul Castro has introduced some limited reforms since he has been in charge, but many Cubans believe that as long as Fidel is alive, no meaningful political or economic change will happen, correspondents say.

Fifty years on, the legacy of the revolution is complex. There is free education and health care but the state-controlled economy means wages for many Cubans are very low, on average about $20 to $25 a month.

more on LINK
 
Did CUBA need a revolution in the 50s to dispose of a corrupt government ???

Absolutely!

Does Marxist/Leninist doctrine serve the Cuban people today ???
Absolutely not!

Unfortunately - so long as Fidel Castro lives - nothing more than window dressing will ever happen.  His brother Raoul doesn't have the testicular fortitude to do anything more.....

I think that with the arrival of Barak Obama as President of the USofA
and a certain amount of support by Cuban americans for the removal of the current and longstanding embargo
the time may be right for a normalisation of relations with this small corner of the world.
 
geo said:
Did CUBA need a revolution in the 50s to dispose of a corrupt government ???

Absolutely!

Does Marxist/Leninist doctrine serve the Cuban people today ???
Absolutely not!
Only two things can be said that the revolution has done for the Cuban people: increased literacy - more schools, better education - and, maybe arguably, better health services; although, the health infrastructure and supplies are in very bad shape, Cuba has an extensive network of health professionals.

At the cost of liberties and the lives of thousands of opponents and dissidents.

geo said:
Unfortunately - so long as Fidel Castro lives - nothing more than window dressing will ever happen.  His brother Raoul doesn't have the testicular fortitude to do anything more.....

I think that with the arrival of Barak Obama as President of the USofA
and a certain amount of support by Cuban americans for the removal of the current and longstanding embargo
That's where you are mistaken.
It is well known that the Cuban exiles are the prime opponents of any easing of pressure from the current regime. Most cheered when the Helms-Burton act was enacted. They are the more staunch Republican supporters and a big part, if not critical, in GW Bush win of the US presidency - they will not stand for any changes in policy short of the overthrow of the current regime and the return of their land, possessions and status. (mostly my opinions but can easily be corroborated - but I don't have the energy at the moment :-))
There have been signs of Raul's softening stance and more pragmatic/progressive approach but he has to move slowly for his own skin. The exiles will also do their best to scuttle any conciliatory move from the US gov.

cheers,
Frank
 
PanaEng said:
Only two things can be said that the revolution has done for the Cuban people: increased literacy - more schools, better education - and, maybe arguably, better health services; although, the health infrastructure and supplies are in very bad shape, Cuba has an extensive network of health professionals.

Well, actually you could add a 3rd to that:  Organic Permaculture.  When Soviet/Eastern Block aid was withdrawn in the late 80's early 90's, the Cuban economy fell into a serious state of crisis, to include agricultural imports such as fertilizers and pesticides.  Out of necessity, the Cubans developed a system of sustainable, organic based agriculture to feed its population. i.e. 50% of Havana's food requirements are grown within city limits, using organic methods.  Without access to cheap fossil fuels for transport, chemical fertilizers, pesticides and insecticides, Canadians would be in a famine situation the scale of Ethiopia in the 80's.  We could definitely learn a thing or two from them in that regard.
 
Matt_Fisher said:
Well, actually you could add a 3rd to that:  Organic Permaculture.  When Soviet/Eastern Block aid was withdrawn in the late 80's early 90's, the Cuban economy fell into a serious state of crisis, to include agricultural imports such as fertilizers and pesticides.  Out of necessity, the Cubans developed a system of sustainable, organic based agriculture to feed its population. i.e. 50% of Havana's food requirements are grown within city limits, using organic methods.  Without access to cheap fossil fuels for transport, chemical fertilizers, pesticides and insecticides, Canadians would be in a famine situation the scale of Ethiopia in the 80's.   We could definitely learn a thing or two from them in that regard.

So would Cubans as they don't grow enough to feed themselves and import from places like Canada.
Cuban purchasing agency Alimport buying Canadian foods over US foods.

For 2007 seems Canada sold 150,000 tons of wheat to Cuba which has a population of around 11.3 million. That works out to 13kg of wheat per person in the entire country for that year and only for wheat from Canada. They also buy a lot of other products from Canada and other countries.
 
PanaEng said:
Only two things can be said that the revolution has done for the Cuban people: increased literacy - more schools, better education - and, maybe arguably, better health services; although, the health infrastructure and supplies are in very bad shape, Cuba has an extensive network of health professionals.

I love Cuba! But anyway. During my last trip to Cuba we rented a car and looked around. It seemed a lot safer and nicer than the Dominican Republic. Overall, their is about the same quality of life as a simmilar "non-communist" country nearby, except that the other had perhaps a little more of a gap between the rich and poor. But overall there is not much difference from what I saw.

On another note, in Dominican its better to stay on the resort. In Cuba I highly recommend travelling around (some of the smaller cities, not their capitals where everyone goes).

And Cubans seemed happier.... in Cuba I wasn't offerred herion or whores and mainly nobody bothered me too much.

Cheers!
 
Castro reflects on health, praises Obama

HAVANA, Cuba (CNN) -- Former Cuban President Fidel Castro said Thursday he doubts
he'll still have the "privilege" of observing world events in four years, cryptically indicating
awareness that he is drawing ever closer to death. Castro, 82, made the remarks in closing
the latest edition of his "Reflections" essays that typically are posted on a government Web
site the day before they are published in state newspapers.

The seven-paragraph essay discusses the inauguration and coming term of President Obama,
a topic Castro also addressed in an edition of "Reflections" published Wednesday. "I've had the
rare privilege to observe events over a long time," Castro wrote. "I receive information and think
about the events. I don't expect to have that privilege in four years when Obama's first term has
finished."

After those words, Castro's signature appears, followed by the time -- 6:30 p.m. -- and the date,
January 22.

Before Wednesday, Castro had not posted an essay since mid-December, and no photographs of
him had appeared since November. Once the 50th anniversary of Cuba's revolution passed on
January 1 with no comments from the revolutionary leader, rumors circulated that he had fallen
seriously ill or perhaps had died. Though photographs occasionally surface, he has not been seen
in public since he ceded power temporarily to his younger brother in July 2006 after suffering from
an undisclosed illness, often thought to be of his digestive system. He handed power to Raul Castro
permanently in February 2008.

But Argentina's official news agency reported that Castro had met with Argentine President Cristina
Fernandez de Kirchner on Wednesday and that the Cuban leader appeared "very well." "We talked
about all subjects," Kirchner said. "I found him very well. We talked about the international situation."

In Thursday's essay, Castro said that Obama "has transformed himself under the inspiration of
Abraham Lincoln and Martin Luther King Jr. to the point of becoming a living symbol of the American
dream."
 
Another update:

Russia to help train, modernize Cuban Military

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20090918/156170428.html

HAVANA, September 18 (RIA Novosti) - Modernization of the Soviet-made military equipment and training of Cuban military personnel will be the focus of Russian-Cuban military cooperation in the near future, the chief of the Russian General Staff said on Friday.

Gen. Nikolai Makarov arrived on a working visit to Cuba on Monday, met with Cuban President Raul Castro and the country's military leadership, and visited a number of military installations.

"During the Soviet era we delivered a large number of military equipment to Cuba, and after all these years most of this weaponry has become obsolete and needs repairs," Makarov said.
(...)
Although the Cuban leadership has repeatedly said it has no intention of resuming military cooperation with Russia after the surprise closure of the Russian electronic listening post in Lourdes in 2001, bilateral military ties seem to have been improving following the visit of Russian Security Council chief Nikolai Patrushev and Russian Deputy Prime Minister Igor Sechin to Cuba in July last year.

A group of Russian warships, led by the Admiral Chabanenko destroyer visited Cuba in December last year during a Caribbean tour.
 
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/world/archives/2012/04/20120409-165651.html

OTTAWA - Fidel Castro, Cuba's ailing former dictator, has written an article in which he blasts Canada and Prime Minister Stephen Harper.
In an article published Sunday by a Cuban news agency, the 85-year-old calls out Harper and Canada for not taking sides in the "thorny issue" of the Falklands Islands dispute. Castro also takes issue with Canadian mining activities in Latin America.

But he's not just critical of mining in the southern hemisphere.

He singles out the "yankees" for having "forced" Canada to extract bitumen from Alberta's oilsands, "causing irreparable damage to the environment of this beautiful and vast country."

My favorite part is when he asked are we, 'a colony, a republic or a monarchy.'.. There should be a none of the above option :P
 
Am I going to cancel my trip to Varadero for this? Naw. And methinks Harper isn't going to pay much attention to begin with.
 
That's OK.  Castro turned his country into a sh1thole by retarding its economic and social progress, and the world knows it.
 
Brad Sallows said:
That's OK.  Castro turned his country into a sh1thole by retarding its economic and social progress, and the world knows it.

You and I know that BUT there are lots of our fellow citizens who think Fidel is OK as long as they can vacation in Cuba in private resorts. The only Cuban you'll find there is the one that makes your bed or serves you drinks. I just wonder how much the Cubans despise us for using their country as a cheap warm place to go when it gets a bit cold here.

I oppose going to Cuba for political and economic reasons. Its STILL a Communist country and I abhor that style of government. AND consider the fact that the average working Cuban makes diddly squat.

It'll be a cold day in hell before I go there.

Rant ends.
 
Jim Seggie said:
You and I know that BUT there are lots of our fellow citizens who think Fidel is OK as long as they can vacation in Cuba in private resorts. The only Cuban you'll find there is the one that makes your bed or serves you drinks. I just wonder how much the Cubans despise us for using their country as a cheap warm place to go when it gets a bit cold here.

I oppose going to Cuba for political and economic reasons. Its STILL a Communist country and I abhor that style of government. AND consider the fact that the average working Cuban makes diddly squat.

It'll be a cold day in hell before I go there.

Rant ends.

I agree with all but the smoke. Dominican makes a fine product, however, the Cuban leaf is superior to any I've tasted on this fine planet. Cancer take me, but that is my view.
 
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