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I suppose that that is comparable to a CAF member coming out and saying that some of the people who made Op Honour complaints, lied to take part in the settlement.
 
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Kilted said:
I suppose that that is comparable to a CAF member coming out and saying that some of the people who made Op Honour complaints, lied to take part in the settlement.
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I’d go one further and suggest it would be similar to the CO of a unit to come out and say that.
 
Kilted said:
I suppose that that is comparable to a CAF member coming out and saying that some of the people who made Op Honour complaints, lied to take part in the settlement.
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Some CAF members absolutely lied to take part in the settlement. The same way some members absolutely fake injuries to get a 3(b) release.
 
Jarnhamar said:
Some CAF members absolutely lied to take part in the settlement. The same way some members absolutely fake injuries to get a 3(b) release.
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I know, but I wouldn't say that to the media or where the media is likely to get ahold of it (I know that this site is somewhere where the media could get ahold of it, however for all they know I may not be a serving member).
 
It's just human nature. The same way some people rip off workers comp. I didn't take the comments from the priest as pointing out the nature of "some people". I get the feeling he's negatively stereotyping with a broad brush and trying to subtly discredit victims. I feel like a number of priests are taking that approach. Which is messed up.
 
I suspect that a lot of priests who had nothing to do with the residential school system feel they are being smeared with a toxic brush and are hitting back. The issue is always complicated by having humans on both sides of the issue which means you get all types.
 
They have no shame:

The Roman Catholic Church spent millions of dollars that were supposed to go to residential school survivors on lawyers, administration, a private fundraising company and unapproved loans, according to documents obtained by CBC News.

The documents include a host of other revelations. They appear to contradict the Catholic Church's public claims about money paid to survivors.
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You can imagine how much INAC spends on Lawyers and other stuff every year compared to how much goes to the bands
 
brihard said:
“Shame” is a tool to retain the Church’s power, not something to be felt by leadership. The Catholic Church at the institutional level is morally bankrupt.
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But fiscally considerate. They are in a crap position, so I suspect their stance is being driven by legal advice .

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I have as much sympathy with this issue as anyone but two stats in one month, two weeks before another long weekend - Thanksgiving - is an absurd attack on productivity....


Government offices, schools to close for Sept. 30 holiday, but businesses undecided​


Students won’t be in class and federal and some provincial employees will get a day off, but the new Sept. 30 holiday in honour of National Truth and Reconciliation Day won’t be mandatory in all B.C. workplaces.

Sept. 30 has traditionally been known as Orange Shirt Day in remembrance of Indigenous peoples across the country who suffered in residential schools.

The federal government declared through an act of Parliament in June that Sept. 30 would be a paid day off for employees in the federal public service, including staff at CFB Esquimalt, federal office buildings and the post office, while federally regulated business such as banks will be closed.


www.timescolonist.com

Government offices, schools to close for Sept. 30 holiday, but businesses undecided

Students won’t be in class and federal and some provincial employees will get a day off, but the new Sept. 30 holiday in honour of National Truth and Reconciliation Day won’t be mandatory in all B.C. workplaces. Sept.
www.timescolonist.com www.timescolonist.com
 
Ontario's provincial government has already said it won't be a stat for anything provincially regulated.
 
The self-flagellation competition is going to go on for a while. No point getting worked up over it.
 
The Bread Guy said:
For the record, here's what Canada's Conference of Catholic Bishops has had to say about who's responsible - highlights mine ....
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Bumped with the latest ....
We, the Catholic Bishops of Canada, gathered in Plenary this week, take this opportunity to affirm to you, the Indigenous Peoples of this land, that we acknowledge the suffering experienced in Canada’s Indian Residential Schools. Many Catholic religious communities and dioceses participated in this system, which led to the suppression of Indigenous languages, culture and spirituality, failing to respect the rich history, traditions and wisdom of Indigenous Peoples. We acknowledge the grave abuses that were committed by some members of our Catholic community; physical, psychological, emotional, spiritual, cultural, and sexual. We also sorrowfully acknowledge the historical and ongoing trauma and the legacy of suffering and challenges faced by Indigenous Peoples that continue to this day. Along with those Catholic entities which were directly involved in the operation of the schools and which have already offered their own heartfelt apologies[1], we[2], the Catholic Bishops of Canada, express our profound remorse and apologize unequivocally ... Having heard the requests to engage Pope Francis in this reconciliation process, a delegation of Indigenous survivors, Elders/knowledge keepers, and youth will meet with the Holy Father in Rome in December 2021. Pope Francis will encounter and listen to the Indigenous participants, so as to discern how he can support our common desire to renew relationships and walk together along the path of hope in the coming years ...
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Statement of apology also attached in case link doesn't work for you.
 

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Jarnhamar said:
How long before we see a "well that's not good enough for reconciliation "article do you think?
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The initial reaction so far ....
 
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