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[lenaitch]

I think we need those 1,000new RCMP officers tout suite

Cannabis plants worth $200M seized in raids on Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory, police say​

34 suspects facing charges after illegal farms shut down in September, October​

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/police-shut-down-illegal-cannabis-sites-tyendinaga-mohawk-terriroty-9.6981777

Why? Not their turf.

It seems not everybody on the Territory is happy about it.

Injunction served to block OPP raids on Tyendinaga Mohawk marijuana operations

Legal challenge argues Indigenous Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory members have Aboriginal treaty rights that protect ‘agricultural endeavours’ under Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Indian Act.

www.intelligencer.ca

 

[Czech_pivo]

Why? Not their turf.

It seems not everybody on the Territory is happy about it.

Injunction served to block OPP raids on Tyendinaga Mohawk marijuana operations

Legal challenge argues Indigenous Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory members have Aboriginal treaty rights that protect ‘agricultural endeavours’ under Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Indian Act.

www.intelligencer.ca

Because maybe they are upset that so much profit is being taken out from the territory and so many people have been exposed and arrested.
I am 100% behind exposing the crimes that are committed there, anywhere, and bringing all to justice.

 

[MilEME09]

Because maybe they are upset that so much profit is being taken out from the territory and so many people have been exposed and arrested.
I am 100% behind exposing the crimes that are committed there, anywhere, and bringing all to justice.

100% there are legal ways they could go about this but they didnt, so throw the book at them

 

[FJAG]

Why? Not their turf.

It seems not everybody on the Territory is happy about it.

Injunction served to block OPP raids on Tyendinaga Mohawk marijuana operations

Legal challenge argues Indigenous Tyendinaga Mohawk Territory members have Aboriginal treaty rights that protect ‘agricultural endeavours’ under Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the Indian Act.

www.intelligencer.ca

That's a crappy article. An injunction is a court order. An interlocutory injunction is a temporary court order.

This appears to be neither. It's an application for a hearing in order to obtain an interlocutory injunction. It's not a done deal yet.

 

[Halifax Tar]

I'm going to put this here:

Interesting if a little click baity

 

[Deleted member 175000]

So, in the wake of the Cowichan decision, and with the Haldimand Tract case coming to trial in 2026, I got thinking about the potential for precedent and unintended consequences given it's unique origins.

For those that don't know- the Haldimand Tract was granted to Brant and the Haudenosonee / Iroquois in 1793, granting ~950k acres, 10km on either side of the Grand River from Lake Erie to Dundalk. Over time this was whittled down, Crown alleges legal sales and surrenders, Band alleges shenanigans. Unlike the Cowichan, the 6 Nations aren't trying to assert titled they just (in the order of like a trillion dollars) want paid.

I'm not a lawyer but...

To me though the interesting bit isn't whether they're right or not in their claim- it's that their claim is fundamentally underpinned by the Crown granting them land in the first place.

There is no question about it- Brant and the Iroquois were not native to Canada, the Haldimand Tract is not their ancestral territory since time immemorial. They're foreigners that were granted land by the crown in exchange for their support in the Revolutionary War. So the question isn't about inherent Aboriginal Title- the British crown granted land to a foreign nation. If it is found that the Crown breached obligations pursuant to that proclamation, it stands to reason that its finding that the proclamation legitimately granted the land to the band in the first place, which necessitates the finding that the land was the crown's to give away.... which fully and wholly legitimizes the purchase of that land from the Mississauga in 1792. Cynically, it reinforces the reality that the treaty paradigm being levered to pull money out of the government requires fully embracing the idea of a transactional relationship between nations, which is in direct contradiction to the wishy washy pull on the heartstrings ancestral land / since time immemorial angle.

 

[Kirkhill]

Interesting right enough.

Brant's indigenous Iriquoian American natives were refugees and colonial settlers that recognized the authority of the Crown over land also inhabited by Iriquoian Huron and Anishinaabe Mississauga.

More than a cup of coffee to sort that one out.

 

[foresterab]

Interesting right enough.

Brant's indigenous Iriquoian American natives were refugees and colonial settlers that recognized the authority of the Crown over land also inhabited by Iriquoian Huron and Anishinaabe Mississauga.

More than a cup of coffee to sort that one out.

Where is the Huron confederacy today? Unfortunately many First Nation claims are also dependent upon which time period we use to measure against.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Where is the Huron confederacy today? Unfortunately many First Nation claims are also dependent upon which time period we use to measure against.

They were pretty well wiped out by the Mohawk and Iroquois Confederacy, who killed, took them as slaves or assimilated them into Mohawk bands, while pillaging their land and resources.

 

[Deleted member 175000]

Interesting right enough.

Brant's indigenous Iriquoian American natives were refugees and colonial settlers that recognized the authority of the Crown over land also inhabited by Iriquoian Huron and Anishinaabe Mississauga.

More than a cup of coffee to sort that one out.

Then add the layer that they were refugees and colonial settlers... whose ancestors wiped out the actual ancestral indigenous nation the Neutral Confederacy ~120 years prior in the Beaver Wars

 

[Kirkhill]

Then add the layer that they were refugees and colonial settlers... whose ancestors wiped out the actual ancestral indigenous nation the Neutral Confederacy ~120 years prior in the Beaver Wars

Who, like Brant's people and the Huron spoke an Iroquoian tongue unrelated to the Algonkian languages of the Anishinaabe Ojibway and the Cree that were there before the Iroquoians showed up with their corn and their forts....

After the Inuit and Vikings met up in Newfoundland.

....

I love history.

 

[foresterab]

They were pretty well wiped out by the Mohawk and Iroquois Confederacy, who killed, took them as slaves or assimilated them into Mohawk bands, while pillaging their land and resources.

100% understood that part.

I use them often a case study when talking with peers and others about the complexity of First Nation history and trying to define things cleanly.
The French-Huron alliance vs. the British-Iroquois battles of history and yet who is original owners of the land today?

It's like trying to say the borders of Europe today are the exact same over history and that no invasions/mergers/purges or other dastardly events occurred in years past.

 

[Kirkhill]

100% understood that part.

I use them often a case study when talking with peers and others about the complexity of First Nation history and trying to define things cleanly.
The French-Huron alliance vs. the British-Iroquois battles of history and yet who is original owners of the land today?

It's like trying to say the borders of Europe today are the exact same over history and that no invasions/mergers/purges or other dastardly events occurred in years past.

My time in Peterborough introduced me to the Hiawatha Ojibway, Mississauga Anishinaabe. They arrived on Rice Lake in the 1600s. The Anishinaabe are part of the Algonquian peoples that originated in the Eastern Woodlands of the US and trace their lineage back, legitimately, to at least 3100 BC based on archaeological evidence. The Anishinaabe began their migration up the St Lawrence from the Gaspesie somewhere about 700 AD.

The Iroquois didn't show up until somewhere about 1100 AD. Coincidental with the Mediaeval Warm and desertification in the Arizona area.

 

[daftandbarmy]

There's a brew ha ha a brewin'

Leader of upstart provincial party visits Kamloops, calls for end to Aboriginal title rights​

The controversial leader of an upstart right-wing political party is looking to make inroads in Kamloops, with plans to fight Aboriginal title rights in the B.C. Legislature as cases play out in court.

Vancouver-Quilchena MLA Dallas Brodie, leader of the OneBC Party, spoke to about 60 people Thursday standing on a cul de sac in the 1800-block of Rogers Place.

The event was billed as a meet and greet at which the issue of Aboriginal title would be a topic of discussion.

Brodie laid out numerous actions her party would take in this area if it formed government, adding her intent is to help the Indigenous people, and target those in positions of power who she claims are exploiting the current system.

Leader of upstart provincial party visits Kamloops, calls for end to Aboriginal title rights

www.castanetkamloops.net

 

[Kirkhill]

Alaska tribal nations demand a say on Canadian resource projects

Group set to file a B.C. Supreme Court petition, arguing their historic ties to the region entitle them to consultation rights

www.theglobeandmail.com

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/colville-tribes-sinixt-lawsuit-bc-1.7624723

Apparently it is not just the Haudensaunee that don't think we have borders.

 

[Kirkhill]

And it continues

First Nation seeks Aboriginal title over Coquitlam and Port Coquitlam areas | Urbanized

Kwikwetlam First Nation is seeking Aboriginal title over a large area of Coquitlam and Port Coquitlam, including the Riverview Hospital site.

dailyhive.com

.....

No more sorries.

 

[Halifax Tar]

There's a brew ha ha a brewin'

Leader of upstart provincial party visits Kamloops, calls for end to Aboriginal title rights​

The controversial leader of an upstart right-wing political party is looking to make inroads in Kamloops, with plans to fight Aboriginal title rights in the B.C. Legislature as cases play out in court.

Vancouver-Quilchena MLA Dallas Brodie, leader of the OneBC Party, spoke to about 60 people Thursday standing on a cul de sac in the 1800-block of Rogers Place.

The event was billed as a meet and greet at which the issue of Aboriginal title would be a topic of discussion.

Brodie laid out numerous actions her party would take in this area if it formed government, adding her intent is to help the Indigenous people, and target those in positions of power who she claims are exploiting the current system.

Leader of upstart provincial party visits Kamloops, calls for end to Aboriginal title rights

www.castanetkamloops.net

It's interesting that it's two women who started that righter than right party...

 

[daftandbarmy]

It's interesting that it's two women who started that righter than right party...

The whole government is far more gender balanced than ever, I believe, which is a good thing.

And there are just as many female as male extremists too, it seems

 

[Kirkhill]

The whole government is far more gender balanced than ever, I believe, which is a good thing.

And there are just as many female as male extremists too, it seems

Maggie, Golda, Benazir, Indira.

And a lot of strong Scandinavians today.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Mission accomplished.... headlines in the media.

In other news, how do you break up a protest in Victoria? Ask them to please leave

1 arrest at unsanctioned OneBC event on UVic campus​

The Union of B.C. Indian Chiefs condemned the event​

Supporters of the OneBC party gathered on the University of Victoria (UVic) campus Tuesday for an unsanctioned event — condemned by Indigenous groups for spreading residential school denialism rhetoric — that ended when police arrested one of the speakers for trespassing.

OneBC Leader Dallas Brodie and supporters, including former Mount Royal University professor Frances Widdowson, gathered on campus after not asking for the university’s permission and the university explicitly warning them the event was unsanctioned.

A UVic official told OneBC members they were trespassing and asked them to leave, according to a statement from Saanich Police Department spokesperson Jason Hallman.

The majority of them decided to leave, and were escorted off campus by police. However, one person was arrested under the Trespass Act, Saanich police say, and has since been released.

Tim Thielmann, OneBC chief of staff, identified Widdowson as the person arrested by police.

On Tuesday morning, UVic’s acting president Qwul’sih’yah’maht, Robina Thomas, released a statement saying that OneBC didn't submit a request to host the event on campus, and didn't tell the university of its plans.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/onebc-uvic-arrest-9.7000919