AOR Replacement & the Joint Support Ship (Merged Threads)

[Underway]

No

LMAO... the salty RCN has spoken.

 

[FSTO]

LMAO... the salty RCN has spoken.

I’m that salty?

I don’t like these half assed amphibs. If we’re going that route, get the full deck carrier or don’t do it at all.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Agree with FSTO here. The reason the Dutch can have J. Support S. is because they otherwise have actual amphibs, which are complemented and supported by said JSS.

If you don'y have amphibs to start with, then forget the JSS's and go for full AOR's where fleet support is concerned.

 

[Underway]

I’m that salty?

I don’t like these half assed amphibs. If we’re going that route, get the full deck carrier or don’t do it at all.

Just yanking your chain my friend. I agree with you. Proper amphib or none at all.

 

[Kirkhill]

Or the government could buy Marine Atlantic another 4 RoPax ferries like the Highlanders for use on the East Coast and a couple more for BC Ferries for the West Coast. We subsidize the rides in any case. Let them ride half full. If necessary you can then pull half the fleet out of service without inconveniencing the civvies and ship your Leos and LAVs to St Petersburg (Riga if you prefer).

Add RCN Reservists to drive them and also to man the SeaCans on deck with the Air Defence and EW stuff.

MV Highlanders - Wikipedia

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Highlanders ferry (MARINE ATLANTIC) | CruiseMapper

MARINE ATLANTIC Ro-Pax vessel Highlanders ferry review, ship details, decks and cabins information, cruise ferry route North Sydney-Port aux Basques

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That stern looks like it could be converted to create a flight deck and hangar.

Commercial ships of that sort seem to coast 100 to 200 MUSD each or so. Highlanders cost 84 M Euro to build in 2007

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And Stena, DFDS and Maersk carry a lot of military cargo across the North and Baltic Seas. A similar ferry carried Paras to the Falklands.

 

[Maxman1]

I’m that salty?

I don’t like these half assed amphibs. If we’re going that route, get the full deck carrier or don’t do it at all.

Mistral class BPC 250 has entered the chat.

 

[Dana381]

Or, we could be good allies and partners and get the second Asterix, with the X 2 JSS, and help out.

Maybe Davie will approach the US navy about it when the RCN is done with Asterix. They could operate contract services with a full civilian crew something like the Omega air tankers.

 

[Spencer100]

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Maybe Davie will approach the US navy about it when the RCN is done with Asterix. They could operate contract services with a full civilian crew something like the Omega air tankers.

I think the Jones Act maybe a problem here. Maybe not. I think if you are selling them gas and fuel etc. It would be ok. Would have to go back to a Canadian port on the start or end each tour I think. No trsnsshipping allowed. Or anything that could be called cabbage. But then again if the ship is a CFAV civilian ship its a foreign warship and no Jones act problems.

 

[OceanBonfire]

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https://twitter.com/x/status/1645510519691022337

 

[BrianWL]

Or the government could buy Marine Atlantic another 4 RoPax ferries like the Highlanders for use on the East Coast and a couple more for BC Ferries for the West Coast. We subsidize the rides in any case. Let them ride half full. If necessary you can then pull half the fleet out of service without inconveniencing the civvies and ship your Leos and LAVs to St Petersburg (Riga if you prefer).

Add RCN Reservists to drive them and also to man the SeaCans on deck with the Air Defence and EW stuff.

MV Highlanders - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Highlanders ferry (MARINE ATLANTIC) | CruiseMapper

MARINE ATLANTIC Ro-Pax vessel Highlanders ferry review, ship details, decks and cabins information, cruise ferry route North Sydney-Port aux Basques

www.cruisemapper.com

That stern looks like it could be converted to create a flight deck and hangar.

Commercial ships of that sort seem to coast 100 to 200 MUSD each or so. Highlanders cost 84 M Euro to build in 2007

PHOTO: two new Stena Line ferries to be deployed on Ventspils-Nynäshamn route - Baltic News Network

Staying true to the plan to expand operations in the Baltic Sea, Swedish Stena Line has invested EUR 200 million in the Ventspils-Nynäshamn ferry line. In 2022 the company plans to deploy two brand new ferries on this route, the company reports.

bnn-news.com

Stena Line Takes Delivery of New Ferry Stena Estrid

Stena Line has officially taken ownership of its newest ferryStena Estridfollowing a handover ceremo...

www.maritime-executive.com

And Stena, DFDS and Maersk carry a lot of military cargo across the North and Baltic Seas. A similar ferry carried Paras to the Falklands.

it makes perfect sense from the military perspective. as most of our government have no military perspective, they will not see the sense...........

 

[CBH99]

it makes perfect sense from the military perspective. as most of our government have no military perspective, they will not see the sense...........

I made the mistake last night of reading the comments section on a CBC article relating to what we're doing in Latvia..

Holy s**t

Don't, I repeat, DO NOT READ THE COMMENT SECTION in any article that even references the Canadian Armed Forces...your brain cells will thank you

 

[dapaterson]

I made the mistake last night of reading the comments section on a CBC article relating to what we're doing in Latvia..

Holy s**t

Don't, I repeat, DO NOT READ THE COMMENT SECTION in any article that even references the Canadian Armed Forces...your brain cells will thank you

Corollary: Never read /r/CanadianForces

 

[Underway]

Never read the comment sections in anything. Especially on the Army.ca site. Those people are craaaazy!

 

[WLSC]

I made the mistake last night of reading the comments section on a CBC article relating to what we're doing in Latvia..

Holy s**t

Don't, I repeat, DO NOT READ THE COMMENT SECTION in any article that even references the Canadian Armed Forces...your brain cells will thank you

I always read a bit just for fun. I always regret it.

 

[GK .Dundas]

Never read the comment sections in anything. Especially on the Army.ca site. Those people are craaaazy!

Hey! I resent/ resemble that remark.

 

[dapaterson]

Never read the comment sections in anything. Especially on the Army.ca site. Those people are craaaazy!

Navy.ca, however...

 

[Underway]

Navy.ca, however...

See... someone here gets it!

 

[Spencer100]

Hey! I resent/ resemble that remark.

Hey.....I know I'm nuts.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Good on ya Asterix!

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[Colin Parkinson]

Good on ya Asterix!

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When the first AOR goes into service, make a purchase agreement to take her into government service and send her into refit, then man her with a mixed Civilian/military crew as part of the RCFA.