George Wallace
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Ah Ha! GotchaOriginally posted by recceguy:
[qb] Grasshopper?
Hmmm. If we want to talk about who joined when and who drove what, youngster.:warstory: [/qb]
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Have you seen the waistlines on some, if not all, of the members of the Straths? Those boys know La dolce vita! Canned dolce vita with 100% more fat!
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And your implying what about a whole group of people who are doing something your not or have no experiance in?
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I‘ll direct your attention to the official Lord Strathcona website. Have a look at the unit photos, and then tell me I am wrong. Is it okay that I have an observation, or is this a members only affair? Maybe you can teach me how to defer my judgement preferring yours to mine. Where do I sign up?
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Come on Old Hussar....it‘s past your bedtime. We both need our rest....Got Circuit trg at 0700 hrs.
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Tsk, Tsk, Touchy, Touchy.
When your doing their job and know what their life is all about, feel free to be critical of your peers. Until then, according to your scant profile, your just a skinny little kid with no life experience. Yes, this is a members affair. It‘s supposed to be for soldiers. We let you in cause we‘re nice guys. This is our house, you can comment as you will, but we will not take kindly to critisism of the fine people defending you and this country. Not til you‘ve walked 13 km, on deployment, in their shoes,... if you can.
When your doing their job and know what their life is all about, feel free to be critical of your peers. Until then, according to your scant profile, your just a skinny little kid with no life experience. Yes, this is a members affair. It‘s supposed to be for soldiers. We let you in cause we‘re nice guys. This is our house, you can comment as you will, but we will not take kindly to critisism of the fine people defending you and this country. Not til you‘ve walked 13 km, on deployment, in their shoes,... if you can.
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Never laughed so hard in my life...at this thread.
Kosstro...it‘s not bad to have the troopie on the floor once a week during stables helping out the troop do maintainence. The Snr NCOs should be there also, helping out.
George...11 days buddy
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George Wallace
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Morning
0630 and I screwed up an edit so I have to quickly edit this post prior to running off to Tims to have a coffee before PT.
Franko, the Newbies have begun to arrive. They will be arriving up to the same time you do.
Safe Flight.
By the way, who is the last Post about Recceguy?
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0630 and I screwed up an edit so I have to quickly edit this post prior to running off to Tims to have a coffee before PT.
Franko, the Newbies have begun to arrive. They will be arriving up to the same time you do.
Safe Flight.
By the way, who is the last Post about Recceguy?
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Colin Parkinson
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George is going show his age by teaching the Newbies on how to drive a RAM tank!
I hate to say this guys, but I fear that your nickname â Å“Zipperheadsâ ? will apply well to the new vehicles they want to give you, the armour will be so light that you will be able to use zippers on it!
I hate to say this guys, but I fear that your nickname â Å“Zipperheadsâ ? will apply well to the new vehicles they want to give you, the armour will be so light that you will be able to use zippers on it!
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Well, I for one agree with Ipso. It stands to reason. Unless they restrict the caloric intake of the members of the armoured regiments, then they stand a greater chance of bulking up while behind the wheel. I think it is safe to say that the title "Armoured" precludes its members from doing a significant amount of running around, unless the "Armoured" in their title refers to chain mail and breast plates. Probably not, eh. I had a look at the website Ipso cited, and you know what? Those ARE some big boys. Not only there, but if you have a look at some of the "Combat Camera" photographs, you are left with the distinct impression that more than a few of the members of the CF are bursting at the seams. Equatorially rotund, in other words. My instinct tells me that ol‘ Ipso probably sruck a nerve, eh?
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Why didn‘t you get your hooks into this fellow and tear a strip out of him for defaming the exalted corps? I just said the same thing, naming a specific regiment, a little less gracefully. What is so special about 13k? Fascinated with primes, or something? Let me tell you what really rattled you: I‘m probably close to the mark, aren‘t I? I‘ve had a second look at those unit photos posted on the Strath website, and I‘d bet you a C note that some of those boys get winded and sweaty just tying up their boots in the morning, let alone going on a 13k "hike". No, not ALL of them are in that sorry state, but there there seems to be a large number who enjoy having second and third helpings at breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
13K? I run to school (college/2nd year engineering) daily, and that is 12k EVERY day, not including going to the gym three times a week AND taking 6 courses per term AND holding down a part-time job, AND working/paying my way through school AND getting four hours of sleep at night, AND I am still able to argue with you! Don‘t worry, old man, I can hold my own. Definitely hold my own in relation to SOME of the FAT members of Lord Strathcona‘s Horse!
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Walked 13k on deployment? Bring it on, baby. I‘ll eat it up and ask for thirds (not in the chow line with the Straths).
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OK Ipsofacto...the 13km Battle Fitness Test is the MINIMUM standard you must attain as a combat soldier in order to stay in the CF.
The Regiment and Squadrons have a different idea of what the standard is. Generally my rucksac is weighing in at 70-80lbs instead of the required 52.8lbs for all the marches, as are the troops in my squadron. That plus a pace of doing the march under 2 hours(usually about 1hr 50min) instead of the required minimun standard time of 2 hours 27min.
Generally sqn runs are at a fast pace, 5km finished in 25min or faster. Being a Gazzell doesn‘t count for much though in some squadrons.
For instance, if you have no upper body strength to pound track all day, lift heavy loads, or even lift a winch cable and drag it from the ARV....you‘re pretty much useless in a tank squadron, and we have LOTS of those guys.
I readily admit that we have LOTS of guys and gals who are bit on the "rotund" side of the house. It‘s a bit unsightly on parade, but a god-send in the field when they are wrestling with 2 tons of track....which happens on a regular basis.
The current CO of my Regiment is big on PT and the troops are eating it up over here. Most have improved thier overall physical fitness...to a point of some astonishment in the officer ranks, with all the operations happening while in theater.
Don‘t knock the Stats(ptoowie) if some of thier troops are a bit super sized. Every Regiment has them...including the infantry. The CF is starting to get back to the way things used to be years ago.
Mind you it‘s taking some time to change some of the attitudes of some people. Some like the status quo....personnaly I can‘t stand it.
As for you holding your own with the old man...
Come to the RCD and put your money in his face.
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The Regiment and Squadrons have a different idea of what the standard is. Generally my rucksac is weighing in at 70-80lbs instead of the required 52.8lbs for all the marches, as are the troops in my squadron. That plus a pace of doing the march under 2 hours(usually about 1hr 50min) instead of the required minimun standard time of 2 hours 27min.
Generally sqn runs are at a fast pace, 5km finished in 25min or faster. Being a Gazzell doesn‘t count for much though in some squadrons.
For instance, if you have no upper body strength to pound track all day, lift heavy loads, or even lift a winch cable and drag it from the ARV....you‘re pretty much useless in a tank squadron, and we have LOTS of those guys.
I readily admit that we have LOTS of guys and gals who are bit on the "rotund" side of the house. It‘s a bit unsightly on parade, but a god-send in the field when they are wrestling with 2 tons of track....which happens on a regular basis.
The current CO of my Regiment is big on PT and the troops are eating it up over here. Most have improved thier overall physical fitness...to a point of some astonishment in the officer ranks, with all the operations happening while in theater.
Don‘t knock the Stats(ptoowie) if some of thier troops are a bit super sized. Every Regiment has them...including the infantry. The CF is starting to get back to the way things used to be years ago.
Mind you it‘s taking some time to change some of the attitudes of some people. Some like the status quo....personnaly I can‘t stand it.
As for you holding your own with the old man...
Come to the RCD and put your money in his face.
Regards
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Just because you might be physically fit means jack if you don‘t have the mental stuff upstaurs to take what can come up. Ipso I am betting that you and linear would not last because of your cocky attitudes.
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Ipsofacto and linear Rosa
Look at the medals on this man‘s chest. What gives you any right to knock him standing where you are right now. As far as I‘m concerned, your just a couple of s**t-talking wannabe‘s trying to tell the BTDT‘s how hard you are. When it comes to the Regiments of the army, keep you mouth shut, because none of us really care what you have to say. Consider this your warning, if you continue to troll, you‘ll be out the door quick.
Now, if the zipperheads want to keep this thread going, by all means do so, other wise the staff will kill it.
Look at the medals on this man‘s chest. What gives you any right to knock him standing where you are right now. As far as I‘m concerned, your just a couple of s**t-talking wannabe‘s trying to tell the BTDT‘s how hard you are. When it comes to the Regiments of the army, keep you mouth shut, because none of us really care what you have to say. Consider this your warning, if you continue to troll, you‘ll be out the door quick.
Now, if the zipperheads want to keep this thread going, by all means do so, other wise the staff will kill it.
I cannot believe that I‘m getting involved in this.....
Please do not confuse a low body fat content with physical fitness. Most soldiers train to fight, vice train to run a marathon. An "average" guy in an "average" job can have whatever body style he wants: a soldier will get the body he needs.
Most Infanteers spend an incredible amount of time on the move. They need big lungs, big heart, big legs, strong back.... just to do the job. UFI- an Infanteer on the advance should (according to sports guru‘s) drink app 17 litres of water a day. They work very hard, and get none of the support an athelete gets- they suck it up and carry on.
Armoured guys (and I was one of them) start off the same- and move into their jobs, and aqcuire the bodies they need. Recce guys end up looking like Infantry- and the heavy Armour guys tend to end up with big arms, strong backs and big legs. Want to see a big man? Look at an Engineer or an Artilerymen....built big!
Why? During the Falklands campaign, the British Army had to cross 100 miles of cold, wet, windswept country. The unit PTI‘s (pt instructors, marathon types) to a man fell out with hypothermia. Those soldiers with a higher body fat content (covering substantial muscle masses) had the reserves available to avoid hypothermia, and soldiered on.
We are not paid to look good, we‘re paid to close with and destroy the enemy.
You need muscle, endurance, and the ability to go long periods of time without sleep...all the while being underfed, under hydrated, and existing in inhospitable conditions.
I‘m asuming from the tenor of your posts that you consider yourself physically fit (glass house syndrome?)...next time you go for a run, try sleeping 2 hours a night for a few days first. During the day, spend it walking with a pack, and stop every few hours and dig a hole. Once in awhile, run as hard as you can for half a mile, then dig another hole. Don‘t eat. Drink no more than 2 litres of water per day. Now run. Our standard is 10 miles in 2 hours. All of us "fat boys" can do it, or we wouldn‘t have the job.
PS- next Friday, find whatever bar the boys (Military) are at and mention that they look fat- bet you get an excellent workout..
Please do not confuse a low body fat content with physical fitness. Most soldiers train to fight, vice train to run a marathon. An "average" guy in an "average" job can have whatever body style he wants: a soldier will get the body he needs.
Most Infanteers spend an incredible amount of time on the move. They need big lungs, big heart, big legs, strong back.... just to do the job. UFI- an Infanteer on the advance should (according to sports guru‘s) drink app 17 litres of water a day. They work very hard, and get none of the support an athelete gets- they suck it up and carry on.
Armoured guys (and I was one of them) start off the same- and move into their jobs, and aqcuire the bodies they need. Recce guys end up looking like Infantry- and the heavy Armour guys tend to end up with big arms, strong backs and big legs. Want to see a big man? Look at an Engineer or an Artilerymen....built big!
Why? During the Falklands campaign, the British Army had to cross 100 miles of cold, wet, windswept country. The unit PTI‘s (pt instructors, marathon types) to a man fell out with hypothermia. Those soldiers with a higher body fat content (covering substantial muscle masses) had the reserves available to avoid hypothermia, and soldiered on.
We are not paid to look good, we‘re paid to close with and destroy the enemy.
You need muscle, endurance, and the ability to go long periods of time without sleep...all the while being underfed, under hydrated, and existing in inhospitable conditions.
I‘m asuming from the tenor of your posts that you consider yourself physically fit (glass house syndrome?)...next time you go for a run, try sleeping 2 hours a night for a few days first. During the day, spend it walking with a pack, and stop every few hours and dig a hole. Once in awhile, run as hard as you can for half a mile, then dig another hole. Don‘t eat. Drink no more than 2 litres of water per day. Now run. Our standard is 10 miles in 2 hours. All of us "fat boys" can do it, or we wouldn‘t have the job.
PS- next Friday, find whatever bar the boys (Military) are at and mention that they look fat- bet you get an excellent workout..
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Physical fitness is only a part of Armour Training, as it is in any training in the Armed Forces. Garry and Infanteer have laid out some prime examples of physical fitness training and different programs for different people.
So you want to expound your beliefs that physical training providing ‘picturesque‘ Armour Corps soldiers. Fine. What about the rest of their training? That is what this thread is about. All of their training. What is it that makes an Armour Soldier? Not how fat they may or may not be.
Please have some attention span and try to stay on topic.
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So you want to expound your beliefs that physical training providing ‘picturesque‘ Armour Corps soldiers. Fine. What about the rest of their training? That is what this thread is about. All of their training. What is it that makes an Armour Soldier? Not how fat they may or may not be.
Please have some attention span and try to stay on topic.
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Franko: I respect your opinion; however, the amount of vitriolic feedback is proof positive that I was correct. Infanteer, typically you won‘t find a guy as fat as that in the PPCLI...now I wonder why? Hmmmm...a real poser, eh? Could it be that the armoured soldier‘s job is defined by an excess of sitting? My argument was that unless armoured soldiers have been placed on a strict diet in relation to the other branches of the service, then they stand (and I know that this is going to stun you) a greater chance of putting on weight INDEPENDENT of their skills as armoured soldiers. I have yet to equate fat=incompetence. Some of your responses impiled that connection. All I said was that some, if not all, of the Straths know the sweet life as evidenced by the unit photographs. I didn‘t fabricate those photographs, I merely commented on them. Low-and-behold, I am a rancorous enemy for pointing out the bleeding obvious? It would appear to the outside observer that the concept of "politically incorrect" is not lost on some of the members of the CF, viz. some of the members of the CF are fat. So it is now Politically incorrect to call a spade a spade? Yikes! And I wanted to join the CF to get away from all of that PC nonsense! Where the concepts of honour and fidelity aren‘t empty statements. Where your experiences aren‘t mapped by the all-mighty dollar, but are driven by duty and loyality. Does that still exist in the CF? If it doesn‘t, then I might as well stay in school where there is no honour, and where everybody whines like old women.
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