army and air rank questions

[Ex-Dragoon]

Ex-D, Officers don't go down a rank, all the navs and other remusters going through pilot training stayed at the rank they had before the remuster.

Another case of BOHICA for the rank and file I guess.

 

[Inch]

Another case of BOHICA for the rank and file I guess.

Seems like it.....  :-[

aesop, you're forgetting that an Lt can be an aircraft captain with a Maj co-pilot, just because you're a Maj, it doesn't mean you're in a supervisory role, at least in an aircraft. When majors come back to a community (TacHel, MH, etc) after being in a ground job, they'll be instructed by Capts since most instructors are Capts.  I don't know of any majors that have remustered, but I know lots of Capts from all kinds of different backgrounds, Infantry, ANav, MARE, MARS, etc. I also met an Infantry Capt turned MARS officer and I know a few pilots that went M.O. or Int and they all kept their ranks.

 

[Ex-Dragoon]

And they wonder why the average person is only serving their BE out...

 

[aesop081]

Seems like it.....   :-[

aesop, you're forgetting that an Lt can be an aircraft captain with a Maj co-pilot, just because you're a Maj, it doesn't mean you're in a supervisory role, at least in an aircraft. When majors come back to a community (TacHel, MH, etc) after being in a ground job, they'll be instructed by Capts since most instructors are Capts.  I don't know of any majors that have remustered, but I know lots of Capts from all kinds of different backgrounds, Infantry, ANav, MARE, MARS, etc. I also met an Infantry Capt turned MARS officer and I know a few pilots that went M.O. or Int and they all kept their ranks.

Yes i know what you mean by that but........first off , IMHO, Capt is the same as Cpl....a working body with some responsabilities ( granted at a different level) so remustering as a captain to me means stayind as a captain.  As far as my example of a major, as far fetched as it seems, it could happen.  Yes i know that the AC could be a Lt and the FO a major.  Thats fine and dandy in the A/C but on the ground...who do you think the supervisor is ?  I have been in the air force a short time yes but long enough to see the situation you describe in practical terms. But i don't think that a major should keep his rank if he/she remusters to another MOC.  In the NCM world , a cpl who decides to remuster, stays a cpl......but any higher than that....you go down ( as in my case).

No disrespect intended....Sir ! 

 

[Inch]

Hey no worries, you've got to step foot in an aircraft with me or someone I know at some point.  >

It could very well be, to be honest, I don't know of any Majors that have remustered, I don't think it's a very common occurrence. As a Capt I could have the same quals as a Maj, Advance Aerospace Operations Course or AFOA or whatever they call it now, plus a bunch of others. I've already got my language profile, 2 more OPMEs to do, etc, so I really don't see much of a problem with having a Maj keep his rank, at least from an Air Force point of view. I have a feeling it may be different for other trades but I can't say from experience.

Don't sweat dropping the rank, you'll be an MCpl a year after you get your wings. Sgt will follow not too long after that, it is the working rank for AESOps and FEs afterall.  ;D

 

[aesop081]

......Hey no worries, you've got to step foot in an aircraft with me or someone I know at some point.   >


......Don't sweat dropping the rank, you'll be an MCpl a year after you get your wings. Sgt will follow not too long after that, it is the working rank for AESOps and FEs afterall.   ;D

Hehe.......give me a chance to show my skills at least before you sabotage me 

FE's have to be SGT or above for CP-140s or CC-130s but they are mostly Cpls for CH-146s. Senior NCO is a requirement only for 4 enginer FW.

And i'm not worried about my demotion, i'm the happiest Cpl in NATO but i just think that the reason we drop in rank is also valid for you guys........

 

[foxtwo]

I know that in my squadron, it is very difficult to get promoted, and you shouldn't assume that a certain element gives promotions away like candy. I know some squadrons that do it, and I think it sucks.

 

[aesop081]

I know that in my squadron, it is very difficult to get promoted, and you shouldn't assume that a certain element gives promotions away like candy. I know some squadrons that do it, and I think it sucks.

In my MOC, appointment ot MCpl is automatic one year to the day after receiving your wings...no ifs and buts ! It has nothing to do with unit policies or anything, its the way it is in the trade.

 

[Inch]

In my MOC, appointment ot MCpl is automatic one year to the day after receiving your wings...no ifs and buts ! It has nothing to do with unit policies or anything, its the way it is in the trade.

I think he's talking about cadet squadrons. I don't think he realized we were talking RegF.

 

[aesop081]

I think he's talking about cadet squadrons. I don't think he realized we were talking RegF.

That makes sense...oops, oh well