Army Reserve Restructuring

[daftandbarmy]

So nothing has changed since 1980 ....

My guess is that the establishment hasn't changed, but the workload pressures certainly have.

 

[KevinB]

My guess is that the establishment hasn't changed, but the workload pressures certainly have.

Trying to do more, with less…
The CAF moto for years.

 

[FJAG]

My guess is that the establishment hasn't changed, but the workload pressures certainly have.

I just did a quick check of the ARES MIPs from 2010, and the differences from the full-time staff (RegF and Class B) that I had in 1976-8 was the same except for the fact that I did not have a Class B(A) Crypto NCO (because we didn't have crypto) nor a Class B(A) recruiting NCO (that was a Class A position which was fully adequate because we had a much simpler, faster, better in all ways, recruiting system). All the other positions, RegF and Class B(A) were the same.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I just did a quick check of the ARES MIPs from 2010, and the differences from the full-time staff (RegF and Class B) that I had in 1976-8 was the same except for the fact that I did not have a Class B(A) Crypto NCO (because we didn't have crypto) nor a Class B(A) recruiting NCO (that was a Class A position which was fully adequate because we had a much simpler, faster, better in all ways, recruiting system). All the other positions, RegF and Class B(A) were the same.

As I recall, in 1980, each soldier didn't need a travel claim raised to cover them on every weekend exercise. And a bunch of other insane administrative requirements that didn't exist back then.

For a start...

 

[FJAG]

As I recall, in 1980, each soldier didn't need a travel claim raised to cover them on every weekend exercise. And a bunch of other insane administrative requirements that didn't exist back then.

For a start...

Travel claim? Why? They're on military transport and we fed them while they were on duty.

We had Class A sign in sheets and for summer training had to raise Class B Route Letters. That's it.

The fin clerk raised pay and field duty allowance from sign in sheets. We would use travel claims for things like attending district commander's conferences or professional training when we sent folks to Winnipeg but that's what we had two full-time clerks and a fin clerk for.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Travel claim? Why? They're on military transport and we fed them while they were on duty.

We had Class A sign in sheets and for summer training had to raise Class B Route Letters. That's it.

The fin clerk raised pay and field duty allowance from sign in sheets. We would use travel claims for things like attending district commander's conferences or professional training when we sent folks to Winnipeg but that's what we had two full-time clerks and a fin clerk for.

If the soldiers have to travel to a training area beyond a certain distance from home, even for a weekend exercise, a travel claim is now required.

And that's just one of many layers of bureaucracy that have to be managed now vs. then.

Times have changed...

 

[Kirkhill]

My guess is that the establishment hasn't changed, but the workload pressures certainly have.

The commonality, I believe, is that a lot of the effort came from a few committed members who put in the hours when not on the paysheet.

 

[FJAG]

If the soldiers have to travel to a training area beyond a certain distance from home, even for a weekend exercise, a travel claim is now required.

And that's just one of many layers of bureaucracy that have to be managed now vs. then.

Times have changed...

Not to argue with you, but if the transport is military and rations are provided, what's left to claim for? Is there some new allowance that the travel claim covers or is this some new duty/liability issue not covered by an exercise attendance register?

 

[ueo]

If the soldiers have to travel to a training area beyond a certain distance from home, even for a weekend exercise, a travel claim is now required.

And that's just one of many layers of bureaucracy that have to be managed now vs. then.

Times have changed...

Whaaaat!

 

[McG]

Not to argue with you, but if the transport is military and rations are provided, what's left to claim for? Is there some new allowance that the travel claim covers or is this some new duty/liability issue not covered by an exercise attendance register?

TD per diem if the exercise does not merit casual field pay.

 

[MJP]

If the soldiers have to travel to a training area beyond a certain distance from home, even for a weekend exercise, a travel claim is now required.

And that's just one of many layers of bureaucracy that have to be managed now vs. then.

Times have changed...

That also means that for years soldiers weren't being compensated properly (although it could just be a policy change that made them eligible but don't think so).

I hate bureaucracy too but getting folks what they earned is good thing (even if it is painful)

 

[Halifax Tar]

All I want to say is that in 1998 when I was living in Toronto and playing for the Toronto Nomads I worked for the Bay in the butcher shop at 176 Yonge.

And in 1999 It was time in and time out with a card and code. And I always got paid.

We need to get with the times.

 

[Eaglelord17]

I just did a quick check of the ARES MIPs from 2010, and the differences from the full-time staff (RegF and Class B) that I had in 1976-8 was the same except for the fact that I did not have a Class B(A) Crypto NCO (because we didn't have crypto) nor a Class B(A) recruiting NCO (that was a Class A position which was fully adequate because we had a much simpler, faster, better in all ways, recruiting system). All the other positions, RegF and Class B(A) were the same.

Lots of bureaucracy now. Even something as (formerly) simple as the Mess is a huge manpower/admin nightmare due to NPF and all that goes along with it.

 

[mariomike]

I worked for the Bay in the butcher shop at 176 Dundas.

Do you mean 176 Yonge St.?

 

[Halifax Tar]

Do you mean 176 Yonge St.?

Whoops I do thank you. I had to look up the address and sti FUBARd it lol

Thank you!

PS I also just realized Yonge is spelt that way...