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Advancing on tchnical skills and leadership skills.
Two separate skill sets.
And Captain literally means Head. As in leader.
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Advancing on tchnical skills and leadership skills.
Two separate skill sets.
And Captain literally means Head. As in leader.
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Trade advancement through skill and knowledge aka TASK.
Failed for multiple reasons when proposed. The two principal reasons were:
* Zero sum game. At the time, with no new money, even with pay protection there would be winners and losers, and CAF leadership is allergic to giving bad news.
* Rank ego. Still today there's a mistaken belief that higher rank should always mean higher pay. "How could a fifteen year Cpl get paid more that a Sgt without a CD?"
Failed for multiple reasons when proposed. The two principal reasons were:
* Zero sum game. At the time, with no new money, even with pay protection there would be winners and losers, and CAF leadership is allergic to giving bad news.
* Rank ego. Still today there's a mistaken belief that higher rank should always mean higher pay. "How could a fifteen year Cpl get paid more that a Sgt without a CD?"
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There is also a lot of people who are excellent at fixing things/doing the trade who aren’t good at the leadership side of things (and vice versa).
I have met people who got promoted to management because they were great at the trade and then proceeded to be the worst managers as that isn’t what their skillset actually is.
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Direct entry makes one a commissioned officer. Not everyone needs to be a commissioned officer. Money on the other hand speaks volumes.
Stop fixating on the ordanance corps. This is an issue far broader than that.
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Agreed. I like the idea of changing NCM ranks to some form of sergeant major - to show the leadership level within the NCM grouping.
I also like using WO for specialist at both the basic and advanced tech skill rank because the concept is one already understood by everyone except the Commonwealth folks.
The money has to be there if we ever expect to grow an in-house, high-end technical skills capability.
That was largely an outgrowth of Unification. There have been some inroads back but it could and should change. In the civilian world you can make very good money without ever becoming a leader, just a really good worker. This is a self-inflicted wound.
That's where the "WO as a specialist" concept gives you an off ramp.
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Oftentimes I make more money than my boss as a tradesman. Technically his salary is larger but if I was to work the amount of hours he has to I would make more.Agreed. I like the idea of changing NCM ranks to some form of sergeant major - to show the leadership level within the NCM grouping.
I also like using WO for specialist at both the basic and advanced tech skill rank because the concept is one already understood by everyone except the Commonwealth folks.
The money has to be there if we ever expect to grow an in-house, high-end technical skills capability.
That was largely an outgrowth of Unification. There have been some inroads back but it could and should change. In the civilian world you can make very good money without ever becoming a leader, just a really good worker. This is a self-inflicted wound.
That's where the "WO as a specialist" concept gives you an off ramp.
165 reactions · 26 shares | Traditional 21-Gun Salute at Queen’s Park at noon on Canada Day. 📸 Jul 1, 2026 #Toronto #ProtestMania | Caryma Sa’d
Traditional 21-Gun Salute at Queen’s Park at noon on Canada Day. 📸 Jul 1, 2026 #Toronto #ProtestMania
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I almost considered making a new thread for this. I had to do a double take, because I actually thought this was cadets doing this based on how horrible the drill is. Please note I am commenting on the Foot Drill, not the actual gun drills, perhaps someone more knowledgeable can speak to that. There are multiple people in the comment defending them saying "they are cadets, they are just children" in the comments before they are corrected. I actually think that Cadets probably would have done a better job.
These also are not brand new people, they are fully trained. The officer calling the drill with almost a 45 degree bend at the wrist during the salute sounds like she has never called drill before.
I honestly hope that there is some type of investigation into this. It's pretty bad when we embarrass ourselves this badly in public.
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165 reactions · 26 shares | Traditional 21-Gun Salute at Queen’s Park at noon on Canada Day. 📸 Jul 1, 2026 #Toronto #ProtestMania | Caryma Sa’d
Traditional 21-Gun Salute at Queen’s Park at noon on Canada Day. 📸 Jul 1, 2026 #Toronto #ProtestMania
I almost considered making a new thread for this. I had to do a double take, because I actually thought this was cadets doing this based on how horrible the drill is. Please note I am commenting on the Foot Drill, not the actual gun drills, perhaps someone more knowledgeable can speak to that. There are multiple people in the comment defending them saying "they are cadets, they are just children" in the comments before they are corrected. I actually think that Cadets probably would have done a better job.
These also are not brand new people, they are fully trained. The officer calling the drill with almost a 45 degree bend at the wrist during the salute sounds like she has never called drill before.
I honestly hope that there is some type of investigation into this. It's pretty bad when we embarrass ourselves this badly in public.
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Not kids, I'm afraid.165 reactions · 26 shares | Traditional 21-Gun Salute at Queen’s Park at noon on Canada Day. 📸 Jul 1, 2026 #Toronto #ProtestMania | Caryma Sa’d
Traditional 21-Gun Salute at Queen’s Park at noon on Canada Day. 📸 Jul 1, 2026 #Toronto #ProtestMania
I almost considered making a new thread for this. I had to do a double take, because I actually thought this was cadets doing this based on how horrible the drill is. Please note I am commenting on the Foot Drill, not the actual gun drills, perhaps someone more knowledgeable can speak to that. There are multiple people in the comment defending them saying "they are cadets, they are just children" in the comments before they are corrected. I actually think that Cadets probably would have done a better job.
These also are not brand new people, they are fully trained. The officer calling the drill with almost a 45 degree bend at the wrist during the salute sounds like she has never called drill before.
I honestly hope that there is some type of investigation into this. It's pretty bad when we embarrass ourselves this badly in public.
That's my old regiment - the 7th Toronto Regt, RCA. (If I had a nickel for every salute I fired at Queen's Park back in the day). Nope the two guns in the middle are all Primary Reservists. The two flank guns are volunteer organizations called the "Limber Gunners" firing vintage 25 Pounders (WW2/Korea vintage).
Their marching sucked big time. Funny, with a band there you would have thought they could have had a drummer drum the cadence. The gun drill was passable but not as crisp as it could be. Nope. Not novices. There won't be an investigation anymore than there was in all the bad marching videos we saw for Reembrace Day last year. Sure hope there is some remedial foot drill at the armouries after the guns have been cleaned.
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To refresh the reform topic here - has anyone heard any info whatsoever about whats to come for the 2nd Div/DoC Div? Tasks, rerolling units, TO&E reform, anything? Been pretty well radio silent for months on my end.
