Posted by
"John Gow" <jgow@home.com> on
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:39:23 -0500
Must have made you one **** of an NCM...
Or are you, today claiming officer status?
C‘mon...lets out with the story "Joan"...
Please do reconcile these lapses...
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joan O. Arc"
To:
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Attacked Recruiters
> J-F -
>
> I can understand why you don‘t want to/can‘t be bothered trying to strike
> back in the way I‘ve suggested - you‘re right, it would probably just
result
> in more abuse being heaped on you, and who needs that???
>
> I do a bunch of different things to make a living, and among them are
> research and writing mostly book reviews, personality profiles, etc. on
a
> freelance basis. But way back when I was a student, I did a bit of student
> journalism, and even then, the narrow-minded silliness that passed for a
> "politically correct" philosophy made me ill because it was so blindered
and
> smug.
>
> Since it was especially bad in student journalist circles, I got pretty
good
> at being creative about how to fight against the nonsense and/or how
present
> other points of view in spite of pretty heavy resistance sometimes, and
am
> always happy to share my tactics/experience with anyone who‘s having to
put
> up with similar B.S., for whatever reason.
>
> So, again - hang in there!
>
>
> Joan
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Jean-Francois Menicucci
> Reply-To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
> To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
> Subject: Re: Attacked Recruiters
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:24:48 -0500
>
> There already some replies to it, but I dont think I will go that far to
> express
> my speech,
> anyway I dont really consider them, my just words would probably be
> sensored
>
>
>
> Joan tell me what you do exactly I dont remember ?
>
> jf
>
> "Joan O. Arc" wrote:
>
> > J-F,
> >
> > Thanks for the change of pace from silly to serious. The situation
you‘re
> > describing, while not surprising, does strike me as *incredibly*
> offensive
> > not to mention narrow-minded.
> >
> > I‘m sure you have your own ways of dealing with this kind of B.S., but
> > here‘s another idea, just in case you run out: Next time the student
> paper
> > at Concordia is going on and on about limitations on free speech,
> > discrimination against minorities, etc. And, if it‘s like most papers
on
> > most other Canadian university campuses, it probably does this a lot!
> you,
> > or some other CF-involved student, should fire off a letter pointing
out
> how
> > completely acceptable it seems to be for a bunch of "radical" yahoos to
> try
> > to shut down the "speech" and legitimate business activities of
> recruiters
> > operating on campus and/or how "discriminated against" and certainly
> > disrespected you and other members of the "military minority" at
> Concordia
> > are.
> >
> > *If* they condescend to print your letter assuming of course, that you
> have
> > the time and energy to waste waging such losing battles - maybe you
have
> > more of a life than I do, and therefore don‘t want to waste too much
time
> > worrying about this stuff! : , you can then sit back and watch the
hate
> > mail roll in in reply... Fun, huh?
> >
> > Hang in there,
> >
> > Joan
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: Jean-Francois Menicucci
> > Reply-To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
> > To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
> > Subject: Re: Attacked Recruiters
> > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:44:15 -0500
> >
> > What can I say about my dearest student colleaques from Concordia part
> that
> > the
> > Student Union and
> > some """""""""militants students """"""""""" sometimes go a bit too
far.
> >
> > Three weeks ago, I pass in front of a stand about "demilitarized Quebec
> > city" I
> > was
> > wearing a regimental sweat shirt and they noticed me, thanx god the
> > situation
> > relaxed when I continue my way
> > and I did a LARGE smile to them,
> >
> > thats remind me
> >
> > a couple of years ago, manifested in one of the engineer career
> recruiting
> > day,
> > they arrived in front of Oerlikon and treated them of Nazi, of Racist
> > because
> > Oerlikon
> > "cooperated with the Germans during WWII", but most of the peoples
> working
> > there, where not even born
> > at that time, they continued, insulted them and little pushs came over
> until
> > the
> > manager of the stand decided it was enought, since that day, Oerlikon
is
> no
> > more
> > recruiting graduates from Concordia and don‘t even think to apply
there,
> > when
> > you a Concordia graduate :
> >
> > But the events of last week were published in a couple of Montreal
> > newspapers,
> > with the ugly faces of the protesters in cover
> >
> > Nick Butler wrote:
> >
> > > Sadly this kind of thing is common at a lot of schools. Concordia
> > doesn‘t
> > > surprise me for having it happen, and my own school Trent would
> quite
> > > possibly pose the same problem for recruiters though not in a
violent
> > > manner were they to try to set up there. Sadly there are people in
> the
> > > world foolish enough to engage in such disgraceful displays.
> > >
> > > N.
> > >
> > > >From: "Mathew Snoddon"
> > > >Reply-To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
> > > >To: army-list@CdnArmy.ca
> > > >Subject: Attacked Recruiters
> > > >Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:25:27 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Two friends of mine were the ones that got hassled by some student
> union
> > > >members. The same happened to me last year when we were there, but
> not
> > to
> > > >that degree. I only got the usual stupid questions "Do I have to
> eat
> > > >feces
> > > >to enter?", "What kind of hazing is involved". The recruting Sgt.
> did
> > get
> > > >a letter of apology that stated that actions would be taken against
> the
> > > >individuals involved. But I dpubt anything will come of it. These
> are
> > the
> > > >same ones that harassed some guys from CFSIS the week before. Not
a
> > bright
> > > >thing to do in my opinion.
> > > >
> > > >Matt S
> > >
> >
>
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