Posted by 
"John Gow" <[email protected]> on 
Sun, 18 Mar 2001 00:39:23 -0500
Must have made you one ****  of an NCM...
Or are you, today claiming officer status?
C‘mon...lets out with the story "Joan"...
Please do reconcile these lapses...
John
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joan O. Arc" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:07 PM
Subject: Re: Attacked Recruiters
> J-F -
>
> I can understand why you don‘t want to/can‘t be bothered trying to strike
> back in the way I‘ve suggested - you‘re right, it would probably just
result
> in more abuse being heaped on you, and who needs that???
>
> I do a bunch of different things to make a living, and among them are
> research and writing mostly book reviews, personality profiles, etc. on
a
> freelance basis. But way back when I was a student, I did a bit of student
> journalism, and even then, the narrow-minded silliness that passed for a
> "politically correct" philosophy made me ill because it was so blindered
and
> smug.
>
> Since it was especially bad in student journalist circles, I got pretty
good
> at being creative about how to fight against the nonsense and/or how
present
> other points of view in spite of pretty heavy resistance sometimes, and
am
> always happy to share my tactics/experience with anyone who‘s having to
put
> up with similar B.S., for whatever reason.
>
> So, again - hang in there!
>
>
> Joan
>
>
>
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Jean-Francois Menicucci 
> Reply-To: 
[email protected]
> To: 
[email protected]
> Subject: Re: Attacked Recruiters
> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 23:24:48 -0500
>
> There already some replies to it, but I dont think I will go that far to
> express
> my speech,
> anyway I dont really consider them, my just words would probably be 
> sensored 
>
> 

>
> Joan tell me what you do exactly I dont  remember ?
>
> jf
>
> "Joan O. Arc" wrote:
>
>  > J-F,
>  >
>  > Thanks for the change of pace from silly to serious. The situation
you‘re
>  > describing, while not surprising, does strike me as *incredibly*
> offensive
>  > not to mention narrow-minded.
>  >
>  > I‘m sure you have your own ways of dealing with this kind of B.S., but
>  > here‘s another idea, just in case you run out: Next time the student
> paper
>  > at Concordia is going on and on about limitations on free speech,
>  > discrimination against minorities, etc. And, if it‘s like most papers
on
>  > most other Canadian university campuses, it probably does this a lot!
> you,
>  > or some other CF-involved student, should fire off a letter pointing
out
> how
>  > completely acceptable it seems to be for a bunch of "radical" yahoos to
> try
>  > to shut down the "speech" and legitimate business activities of
> recruiters
>  > operating on campus and/or how "discriminated against" and certainly
>  > disrespected you and other members of the "military minority" at
> Concordia
>  > are.
>  >
>  > *If* they condescend to print your letter assuming of course, that you
> have
>  > the time and energy to waste waging such losing battles - maybe you
have
>  > more of a life than I do, and therefore don‘t want to waste too much
time
>  > worrying about this stuff! : , you can then sit back and watch the
hate
>  > mail roll in in reply... Fun, huh?
>  >
>  > Hang in there,
>  >
>  > Joan
>  >
>  > ----Original Message Follows----
>  > From: Jean-Francois Menicucci 
>  > Reply-To: 
[email protected]
>  > To: 
[email protected]
>  > Subject: Re: Attacked Recruiters
>  > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 15:44:15 -0500
>  >
>  > What can I say about my dearest student colleaques from Concordia part
> that
>  > the
>  > Student Union and
>  > some """""""""militants students """"""""""" sometimes go a bit too
far.
>  >
>  > Three weeks ago, I pass in front of a stand about "demilitarized Quebec
>  > city" I
>  > was
>  > wearing a regimental sweat shirt and they noticed me, thanx god the
>  > situation
>  > relaxed when I continue my way
>  > and I did a LARGE smile to them,
>  >
>  > thats remind me
>  >
>  > a couple of years ago, manifested in one of the engineer career
> recruiting
>  > day,
>  > they arrived in front of Oerlikon and treated them of Nazi, of Racist
>  > because
>  > Oerlikon
>  > "cooperated with the Germans during WWII", but most of the peoples
> working
>  > there, where not even born
>  > at that time, they continued, insulted them and little pushs came over
> until
>  > the
>  > manager of the stand decided it was enought, since that day, Oerlikon
is
> no
>  > more
>  > recruiting graduates from Concordia and don‘t even think to apply
there,
>  > when
>  > you a Concordia graduate :
>  >
>  > But the events of last week were published in a couple of Montreal
>  > newspapers,
>  > with the ugly faces of the protesters in cover 

>  >
>  > Nick Butler wrote:
>  >
>  >  > Sadly this kind of thing is common at a lot of schools.  Concordia
>  > doesn‘t
>  >  > surprise me for having it happen, and my own school Trent would
> quite
>  >  > possibly pose the same problem for recruiters though not in a
violent
>  >  > manner were they to try to set up there.  Sadly there are people in
> the
>  >  > world foolish enough to engage in such disgraceful displays.
>  >  >
>  >  > N.
>  >  >
>  >  > >From: "Mathew Snoddon" 
>  >  > >Reply-To: 
[email protected]
>  >  > >To: 
[email protected]
>  >  > >Subject: Attacked Recruiters
>  >  > >Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 13:25:27 -0500
>  >  > >
>  >  > >Two friends of mine were the ones that got hassled by some student
> union
>  >  > >members.  The same happened to me last year when we were there, but
> not
>  > to
>  >  > >that degree.  I only got the usual stupid questions "Do I have to
> eat
>  >  > >feces
>  >  > >to enter?", "What kind of hazing is involved".  The recruting Sgt.
> did
>  > get
>  >  > >a letter of apology that stated that actions would be taken against
> the
>  >  > >individuals involved.  But I dpubt anything will come of it.  These
> are
>  > the
>  >  > >same ones that harassed some guys from CFSIS the week before.  Not
a
>  > bright
>  >  > >thing to do in my opinion.
>  >  > >
>  >  > >Matt S
>  >  >
>  >
>
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